[Bug 856998] New: Default location of bootloader should be MBR on old hardware
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998#c0 Summary: Default location of bootloader should be MBR on old hardware Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 13.1 Version: Final Platform: i586 OS/Version: openSUSE 13.1 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Bootloader AssignedTo: jsrain@suse.com ReportedBy: u.michel@t-online.de QAContact: jsrain@suse.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 When installing openSUSE 13.1 on an old hardware with Celeron CPU and Windows XP and with a hard disk with legacy partioning the bootloader is installed in the extended partition that is generated during the install process after the size of the Windows partition had been reduced. However, no operating system is found during the boot process with this location. The boot loader must be installed in the MBR and this should be the default. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual Results: No operating system is found during the first boot after install. Expected Results: The grub menu should appear during the first boot. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998#c1 Jiri Srain <jsrain@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO CC| |jsrain@suse.com InfoProvider| |u.michel@t-online.de AssignedTo|jsrain@suse.com |snwint@suse.com --- Comment #1 from Jiri Srain <jsrain@suse.com> 2014-01-03 15:08:47 UTC --- Does Linux get a primary partition available (for /boot directory, if on separate partition, or for /) at all? Otherwise, your scenario is not supported... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998#c2 Ulf Michel <u.michel@t-online.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|u.michel@t-online.de | --- Comment #2 from Ulf Michel <u.michel@t-online.de> 2014-01-03 21:00:56 UTC --- The computer had a single partition under Windows XP. The following partition table is the result of the installation of openSUSE 13.1 (via the Windows program supplied on the installation DVD), with no manual intervention as far as I can remember. Model: ATA WDC WD2500BEVE-0 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 250GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Number Start End Size Type File system Flags 1 32,3kB 147GB 147GB primary ntfs type=07 2 147GB 250GB 103GB extended boot, lba, type=0f 5 147GB 149GB 2153MB logical linux-swap(v1) type=82 6 149GB 171GB 21,5GB logical ext4 type=83 7 171GB 250GB 79,1GB logical ext4 type=83 The /boot directory is on /dev/sda6 # df Dateisystem 1K-blocks Benutzt Verfügbar Verw% Eingehängt auf /dev/sda6 20510716 6065632 13380128 32% / devtmpfs 1021448 20 1021428 1% /dev tmpfs 1032708 92 1032616 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 1032708 3340 1029368 1% /run tmpfs 1032708 0 1032708 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 1032708 3340 1029368 1% /var/run tmpfs 1032708 3340 1029368 1% /var/lock /dev/sda7 75903064 304188 74501028 1% /home /dev/sda1 140490300 92719244 47771056 66% /windows/C The bootloader is now manually installed in the MBR rather than in / as proposed by the installation procedure. I understand from your comment that it would have been necessary to have a primary partition at least for /boot. But if this is so, why does the install program not ensure such a partioning, which would have been easy to achieve? I have no problem with the computer as it is configured now, I only mentioned this BUG (in my opinion) to propose changes in the installation procedure to make sure that other people do not encounter the problem and may be put off from Linux as a consequence. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998#c3 Neil Rickert <nrickert@ameritech.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |nrickert@ameritech.net --- Comment #3 from Neil Rickert <nrickert@ameritech.net> 2014-01-04 03:40:05 UTC --- Just a comment. The default, in my experience, would have been to install grub2 on "/dev/sda2". And, in my experience, that works. It's hard to be sure, because the description lacks details. I'm guessing that the failure was different. For some reason, the boot sector install failed. I have had that happen occasionally, I'm not sure why. Manually installing does fix it, but one has to use "--force" on the "grub2-install" command line. I think that's supposed to be the default, but perhaps there are some failure modes where the "--force" is omitted during install. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998#c4 --- Comment #4 from Ulf Michel <u.michel@t-online.de> 2014-01-05 20:57:12 UTC --- I replicated the bug by 1. deleting the extended partition containing the three logical linux partitions (compare above) 2. increasing the size of the windows partion /dev/sda1 to the full disk size. 3. repairing the MBR and repeating the installation with the Installation DVD openSUSE 13.1 Net 32 bit. The installation offered again the partioning as shown above, which is not supported according to comment #1. After changing this manually to three primary partitions the boot loader installation in the root partition / worked. So there is definitely a bug in the proposal of the partitioning of the hard disk. At least one primary partition should have been created for the bootloader. The title of this thread could be changed accordingly. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998#c5 Jiri Srain <jsrain@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |u.michel@t-online.de AssignedTo|snwint@suse.com |aschnell@suse.com --- Comment #5 from Jiri Srain <jsrain@suse.com> 2014-01-06 07:10:28 UTC --- Yes, I don't really see why the installer did not propose a primary partition for /boot directory. Arvin, can you, please, try to analyze that? Ulf, can you attach the installer log? (tar-up /var/log/YaST2 directory after the installation finished) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998#c6 --- Comment #6 from Ulf Michel <u.michel@t-online.de> 2014-01-06 08:28:59 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=573329) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=573329) The requested YaST2 directory Here is the complete directory because I do not know which part you need. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856998#c7 Arvin Schnell <aschnell@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW CC| |aschnell@suse.com InfoProvider|u.michel@t-online.de | AssignedTo|aschnell@suse.com |jsrain@suse.com --- Comment #7 from Arvin Schnell <aschnell@suse.com> 2014-01-07 11:18:17 UTC --- In general booting from a logical partition works (e.g. within VirtualBox). Limiting /boot to be a primary partition limits the installation of several systems on one computer, whether Windows or Linux. So this clearly needs a feature request. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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