https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 ------- Comment #2 from richard.bos@xs4all.nl 2006-10-31 13:19 MST ------- This producs (in previous update) = LTSP, more info about ltsp at http://www.ltsp.org More info about ltsp5 is at: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/MueKow Another problem with the current ltsp (< version 5) is that it is difficult to get applications running on the thin client itself. Those so called local applications, require e.g. lots of video processing like google earth (GE), multi media (MM) applications (sound should be in sync with video) and VOIP applications. The 1st 2 (GE and MM) are very often used in schools nowadays. Ltsp 5 makes it possible to install the applications from the distribution in the ltsp tree (/opt/ltsp). Ltsp 5 is a big step forwards and it would be great if opensuse-10.3 good be equipped with this service! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 richard.bos@xs4all.nl changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |richard.bos@xs4all.nl ------- Comment #3 from richard.bos@xs4all.nl 2006-10-31 14:45 MST ------- There is another oppertunity to work together with the core team. It starts friday 2 November, so be quick ;) If possible with the upcoming 10.2 release.... MOre info in the irc log below: jammcq: is it possible for you to tell me with whom you have spoken to at Novell? brich 22:23:38 [buddy] jammcq: he (fxrsliberty) talked to several people. Dave Brower is the head of k12 marketing and he wants it. jeff jaffe an I exchanged a few e-mails and he forwarded me to Guy Lunardi Jeff Jaffe is COO or a function very close to that level.... jammcq 22:25:46 [buddy] hey guys I talked with Matt French he seemed "interested" but unwilling to commit any resources after we had our hackfest in september, he seemed even more interested. so, I invited him to send someone to our next hackfest which is this coming friday and saturday, but I got no reply so basically, I'm happy to extend invitations for them to come play with us, but i'm not going to chase them if they aren't really willing to play brich 22:33:26 [buddy] Where is the hackfest, do you have some more info? jammcq 22:33:46 [buddy] san francisco, fishermans wharf area 9 of us getting together for 2 days starts 9am on friday, and ends at 4:30pm on saturday if you find a novell guy that wants to come, have him contact me but my understanding is that the "real" novell engineers are in germany brich 22:35:11 [buddy] I'll add it to the my feature (bug) request. fxrsliberty: can you do the same to your bug report. I think it is late indeed for a request. Perhaps a conference call via skype with webcam might work? jammcq 22:36:32 [buddy] well, at this point, we've got 2 VERY busy days, i'm not interested in jumping through hoops just because they couldn't make up their minds brich 22:36:50 [buddy] clear! jammcq 22:37:04 [buddy] I tried to explain to these guys that it's an opportunity to work with the ubuntu and fedora and LTSP guys who are making things happen face-to-face it doesn't get much better than that -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 cthiel@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |cthiel@novell.com ------- Comment #5 from cthiel@novell.com 2006-10-31 16:02 MST ------- Cristian, LTSP and SLEPOS may overlap in certain areas, but I doubt the team is currently using LTSP code. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 ------- Comment #7 from cthiel@novell.com 2006-11-02 01:24 MST ------- Update: I have contacted Jim McQuillan yesterday via email -- however, no response so far. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 ------- Comment #9 from cthiel@novell.com 2006-11-02 01:34 MST ------- Cristian, as soon as I get the a response from Jim, I'll have a look at it. We currently don't really know the requirements -- so it's hard to give an estimate. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 ------- Comment #11 from cthiel@novell.com 2006-11-02 06:13 MST ------- Please make sure to use an email address, that belongs to a registered novell.com/bugzilla.novell.com account. Th easiest way to get an account is to browse to https://secure-www.novell.com/selfreg/jsp/createOpenSuseAccount.jsp an create it ;) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 ------- Comment #13 from judas_iscariote@shorewall.net 2006-11-02 17:10 MST ------- (In reply to comment #12) We don't need irc talk logs :) what we need is a roadmap, created by a project manager, that describes the tasks needed to be done to have a proper LTSP support into the distribution, so, people ( including me) can take some of them. this is different from the "general" itegration steps ( compiling, packaging etc) SUSE has his own structure, policies and philosophy which must be respected. that kind of document is what Cthiel will provide in the future. Providing LTSP packages is very, very different that producing a **product** that has LTSP functionality, and seriuosly more complex, and I think it requires a multi disciplinary staff of people working on it.. james : IT AINT TRIVAL. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 cthiel@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |cthiel@novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | Status|NEW |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #15 from cthiel@novell.com 2006-11-04 06:11 MST ------- I'll take this bug for now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 ------- Comment #17 from jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us 2006-11-13 08:15 MST ------- Mr. Thiel, Would it make it easier if this where part of an "Add on CD" ? I was hoping to get a project started to create a "k12" Add On cd that includes Centre from www.miller-group.net, Moodle, Klahowya, openbiblio, and some of the features from the "SuSE School Server". it would take a lot of work but if we could get all these programs in and connected to the same LDAP user repositry it would be huge! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WORKSFORME | ------- Comment #19 from jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us 2007-05-24 13:27 MST ------- As most of the hard work has been done and since this is such a valuable project could we reopen this and have the whole team work on the missing parts for days? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED Info Provider|jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us | ------- Comment #21 from jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us 2007-05-24 22:01 MST ------- let me start by saying thank you. the currant issues are: the netboot initrd is 17mg were as the ltsp5 is 2.8 which makes booting slow ( ltsp dev said something about not using glibc), it has a hard time with 586 (pII 350 type stuff)hardware and runs very slow on 128 meg of ram where as ltsp supports as little as 16meg. it could use some tweaking to be more efficient like the "mini-disk" for 10.2 (which recognizes my LTSP 150 hardware and kiwi netboot does not). It won't configure my i810 video. I think it needs an RW FS (ramdrive?) the dhcp module gets stuck randomly- more so on older hardware. It will need the: NDB client server configured ltspfs?fuse? network sound - pulse audio? support for local devices like usb printers, memory sticks, floppies I'm sure there are more things but I don't code so I'm not sure. you can join us @ #opensuse-kiwi on irc.freenode.net and ask cyberorg. as far as I can tell it is running but all of the fine tuning is undone and we would like to include it in the EDU-CD project that is due to release with 10.3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 ------- Comment #23 from jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us 2007-05-29 09:07 MST ------- Christoph, there are many things coming into play that a full linux system expert will need to address i.e. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LtspfsVirtualHalDevices also ldm is changing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LdmImprovements https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LtspBootPerformance https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LtspUpdateManagerIntegration this part will have to be handled by kiwi loadbalancing and HP clustering I would like to know what you determine will be the official support position and what tasks we can count on the team to handle and whether someone would be able to participate in an IRC discussion. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 James Tremblay <jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753#c25 --- Comment #25 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2007-08-29 11:39:14 MST --- Here is an update to our development effort. We are bit more organized, hopefully we will have git server running soon. http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/KIWI-LTSP Test packages: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/cyberorg:/experimental/openS... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753 Christoph Thiel <cthiel@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|jigish.gohil@gmail.com |cthiel@novell.com Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753#c27 --- Comment #27 from James Tremblay <jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us> 2007-11-14 16:01:19 MST --- I believe Jigish will tell you that it depends on how much of KIWI will go into the main distro, for basic software rpm's here is a starter list. kiwi-xxx.rpm kiwi-desc-netboot-xxx.rpm kiwi-pxeboot-xxx.rpm kiwi-desc-ltsp-xxx.rpm ldm2-xxx.rpm ltsp-client-xxx.rpm ltspfs-xxx.rpm ltspfs-server-xxx.rpm nbd-xxx.rpm nbd-doc-xxx.rpm And of course the x86_64 versions too I think there is a YaST module in development too. I'm not sure the extent of what you want to know. There are some features that would be nice too. A big feature would be for sabayon and kdekiosk to be able to update the skel and core applications in user profiles , i.e. If I want to put in a new extension to firefox for everyone. (right now sabayon is not able to even store all the changes I make to the slab and application browser) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216753#c29 Christoph Thiel <cthiel@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lrupp@novell.com --- Comment #29 from Christoph Thiel <cthiel@novell.com> 2007-11-15 10:41:35 MST --- CCing Lars. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.