https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523#c1 Dr. Werner Fink changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #1 from Dr. Werner Fink 2013-04-19 07:09:18 UTC --- This how texlive works today ... see http://www.tug.org/texlive/ and there *are* meta packages including full, please use the packages which include the scheme and/or collection in the package name: texlive-scheme-basic texlive-scheme-context texlive-scheme-full texlive-scheme-gust texlive-scheme-medium texlive-scheme-minimal texlive-scheme-small texlive-scheme-tetex texlive-scheme-xml texlive-collection-basic texlive-collection-bibtexextra texlive-collection-binextra texlive-collection-context texlive-collection-fontsextra texlive-collection-fontsrecommended texlive-collection-fontutils texlive-collection-formatsextra texlive-collection-games texlive-collection-genericextra texlive-collection-genericrecommended texlive-collection-htmlxml texlive-collection-humanities texlive-collection-latex texlive-collection-latexextra texlive-collection-latexrecommended texlive-collection-luatex texlive-collection-mathextra texlive-collection-metapost texlive-collection-music texlive-collection-omega texlive-collection-pictures texlive-collection-plainextra texlive-collection-pstricks texlive-collection-publishers texlive-collection-science texlive-collection-texinfo texlive-collection-xetex and many more. Please note that I'll not switch back to monolithic package scheme back as long as upstream uses the current fine granulated scheme. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523#c3 Yarny Yarny changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |Yarny@public-files.de --- Comment #3 from Yarny Yarny 2013-06-13 13:57:35 UTC --- Hi Werner, I'm using those meta packages for installation. There are, however, no such meta packages for the documentation packages (at least I couldn't find then, nor did the forum URL:http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/...). Would it be possible to add such matching texlive-scheme-*-doc packages which pull in the respective texlive-$WHATEVER-doc packages? That would be a great help. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

There are 24 documentation packages I don't really understand the meaning of those 24 packages. Are they supposed to pull in some of the texlive-*-doc packages? I have all of them installed on my system (and texlive-scheme-full), however, only four of the 'texlive-*-doc'

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523#c5 --- Comment #5 from Yarny Yarny 2013-06-17 15:51:11 UTC --- Thanks Werner, packages are installed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523#c7 --- Comment #7 from Yarny Yarny 2013-06-28 02:56:44 UTC --- Thanks a lot! That saves me from a lot of trouble. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523#c9 Joschi Brauchle changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |joschibrauchle@gmx.de --- Comment #9 from Joschi Brauchle 2013-08-07 08:11:28 UTC --- (In reply to comment #6)

(In reply to comment #5) But be warned: this increases the installation size a lot.

Personally, I am not soo happy with this solution. The problem of a *single* texlive user (problem was: how to install all documentation packages) was solved by installing ~2500 documentation packages for *all* texlive users. This seems like overkill to me :-) Is there an openSUSE guideline for installation of documentation packages? On my 12.3 system, there are a total of ----------- # zypper se -i '*-doc'|grep -v texlive|wc -l 13 ----------- documentation packages installed (excluding texlive). So it seems not be common practice to recommend documentation packages. Of course one can install texlive with zypper --no-recommends, sure! But by *default*, even when simply installing the latest texlive patch, all documentation packages will now be installed. I am no zypper/rpm packaging expert, but is there no way to invert the new behavior? I.e.: install docs for all installed packages only on request with a certain zypper command? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813523#c11 --- Comment #11 from Joschi Brauchle 2013-08-07 08:58:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #10)

It should be as simple as that: When a texlive package is installed, the corresponding -doc package is also installed by dependency.

Well, that is where I would disagree. For me, installing any texlive package "A" should *not* automatically install the corresponding "A-doc" package, as this is exactly the new behavior that now causes *all* docs to be installed. What I personally would wish for is this behavior: 1) Installing texlive package "A" does *not* autoinstall "A-doc" (old behavior) 2) Installing "A-doc" autoinstalls "A" (this should be normal) 3) Optional zypper command or may "texlive-scheme-full-docs" package or other solution which installs all "A-doc" packages if and only if "A" is installed. Due to 1), default installation would be small without docs. Due to 3), optional installation of docs would be easy! But I am not sure on how this can be done. May be the RPM "suggests:" tag (instead of "recommends:") helps to do this (or maybe not)? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.