https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326333#c2 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kkaempf@novell.com Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #2 from Stefan Hundhammer 2007-09-19 07:07:21 MST --- It's not a bug, it's a feature. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326333#c4 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|sh@novell.com |dmacvicar@novell.com Severity|Major |Normal Status|REOPENED |NEW --- Comment #4 from Stefan Hundhammer 2007-09-19 08:34:30 MST --- The idea of that pattern dialog is to give less experienced users a simpler approach to package selection. WITHOUT all those bells and whistles that experts want, but that OTOH frighten novice users so much that they can't use it for fear they might break everything. Adding the "check dependencies" button there and a "Auto check" checkbox would defeat this purpose. And both of those widgets might disappear even in the detailed package selection anyway due to other problems (container resolvable status not propagated to packages without solver run). So, the part about not solving in the pattern selector is clearly INVALID. So is the idea to add those widgets that make the detailed package selector so complex. Another issue is if it makes any sense to even show the pattern selector (the simple one) in the update case. IMHO it does not. During installation, solving should not take so long that it turns into a major problem. And our pre-made patterns should not cause dependency problems, either. So: I propose to not show the pattern selector during update (which was the scenario that gave reason to write this bug report according to an IRC conversation). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326333#c6 Michael Matz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |matz@novell.com --- Comment #6 from Michael Matz 2007-09-19 08:41:57 MST --- Re comment #4: Note, though, that we have "update based on patterns". If you choose that it makes sense to actually try to change the set of patterns you want to update to. I.e. show that dialog. Then there's the other problem, that _if_ you want to e.g. disable a certain pattern for the update (for instance you aren't interested in KDE) it sometimes is automatically reselected by the solver. I.e. somehow if you deselect a pattern it should be set to taboo or something. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326333 Duncan Mac-Vicar changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|YaST2 |YaST2 Product|openSUSE 10.3 |openSUSE 11.0 Version|RC 1 |unspecified -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326333#c9 --- Comment #9 from Duncan Mac-Vicar 2007-11-09 09:06:53 MST --- I agree with comment#4, however I would like to hear Jiri, Coolo and Klaus opinion. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326333#c11 --- Comment #11 from Jiri Srain 2007-11-09 09:33:53 MST --- The solving will take longer in the future with more repositories. When updating from 10.3, we will deal with much more packages which don't come from SuSE/Novell than in the past. I would prefer disabling autocheck by default in general (at least) during update. Even in the package selector one sometimes has to disable solver in order to be able to unselect some packages (experience from yesterday, when I dealt with packages from 3rd party repos). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326333 Richard Guenther changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Found By|--- |Development -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.