https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c2 --- Comment #2 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 03:38:41 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=221190) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=221190) extract from xev on suse 11.0 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c3 --- Comment #3 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 03:45:28 MDT --- hope to be an usefull information: anubis@linux-16bn:~> xmodmap -pke|grep 176 keycode 176 = -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c5 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |andreafl@libero.it --- Comment #5 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-06-10 03:54:11 MDT --- What's the output of 'setxkbmap -print'? Please attach your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Are you using KDE or GNOME for your keyboard settings? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c7 --- Comment #7 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 03:58:49 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=221199) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=221199) xorg.conf file this is the default xorg.conf nvidia drivers not yet installed -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c8 --- Comment #8 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-06-10 04:08:47 MDT --- Section "InputDevice" Driver "kbd" Identifier "Keyboard[0]" Option "Protocol" "Standard" Option "XkbLayout" "it" Option "XkbModel" "pc102" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" EndSection This is a result of the SaX2 mapping: linux console --> X it-ibm: microsoftpro : it : x : xfree86 : x : x : x : x : x it : pc102 : it : x : xfree86 : x : x : x : x : x it2 : pc102 : it : x : xfree86 : x : x : x : x : x This didn't change between SaX2 of 10.3 and 11.0. Which linux console keyboard layout are you using (check /etc/sysconfig/keyboard:KEYTABLE)? Maybe this changed from it-ibm to it/it2 for openSUSE 11.0 ... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c10 --- Comment #10 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 04:51:49 MDT --- i check... /etc/sysconfig/keyboard is the same for both diff -uNr show me no diffs... the diff i found is on xmodmap -pke output, infact this is the suse 11 output: https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=221196 and this is the suse 10.3 output https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=221217 xorg.conf on "ImputDevice" is the same for both in suse 10.3 i have: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard[0]" Driver "kbd" Option "Protocol" "Standard" Option "XkbLayout" "it" Option "XkbModel" "pc102" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" EndSection -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c12 --- Comment #12 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 05:53:04 MDT --- no.. really..keys on suse 10.3 works out of the box... really that is 'setxkbmap -print' output on suse 10.3 anubis@HP-Linux:~> setxkbmap -print xkb_keymap { xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" }; xkb_types { include "complete" }; xkb_compat { include "complete" }; xkb_symbols { include "pc+it" }; xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc102)" }; }; and that is the one on suse 11: anubis@linux-16bn:~> setxkbmap -print xkb_keymap { xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" }; xkb_types { include "complete" }; xkb_compat { include "complete" }; xkb_symbols { include "pc+it" }; xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc102)" }; }; is the same as i told i'm able to found differences only on 'xmodmap -pke' output -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c14 --- Comment #14 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 06:13:04 MDT --- i know that you whant to kill me but but i have no map file in both home... :'( anubis@HP-Linux:~> ls -a | grep map anubis@HP-Linux:~> ls -a | grep f anubis@HP-Linux:~> cd /suse11/home/anubis anubis@HP-Linux:/suse11/home/anubis> ls -a | grep map anubis@HP-Linux:/suse11/home/anubis> -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c16 --- Comment #16 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 06:33:57 MDT --- i thin should be a kernel issue... infact as i frote on comment #6 when i press the 2 keys not detected on suse 11 bye xev (that instead works on suse 10.3) i receive that form var/log/messages: i receive that answer from /var/log/messages when i try to press the 2 keys not detected bye suse 11 Jun 10 11:52:57 linux-16bn kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x88 on isa0060/serio0). Jun 10 11:52:57 linux-16bn kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e008 <keycode>' to make it known. Jun 10 11:52:57 linux-16bn kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x88 on isa0060/serio0). Jun 10 11:52:57 linux-16bn kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e008 <keycode>' to make it known. Jun 10 11:52:57 linux-16bn kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x8e on isa0060/serio0). Jun 10 11:52:57 linux-16bn kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e00e <keycode>' to make it known. Jun 10 11:52:57 linux-16bn kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x8e on isa0060/serio0). Jun 10 11:52:57 linux-16bn kernel: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e00e <keycode>' to make it known. another question, how can i workaround to have the same 'xmodmap -pke' output from suse 11 and 10.3 ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c18 --- Comment #18 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 06:40:30 MDT --- sorry..suse 11 kernel is 2.6.25.5 not 2.6.24 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c20 --- Comment #20 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-10 07:05:19 MDT --- thanks, bug opened. bug #398846 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c21 --- Comment #21 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-12 15:53:05 MDT --- as i wrote here: the problem looks to be the missing hotkeys-setup package.. i downloaded that one: http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.3/repo/src-oss/suse/src/hot... and with rpmbuild --rebuild i had rebuild package and then installed..no more have the problem posted, and xev detect my keys.. but all multimedia keys are still not associated: keycode 205 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol) (i.e.) now you know that.. do you think should be something new can we try to do? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c22 --- Comment #22 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-12 15:57:37 MDT --- FIXED.. just need to install htokey-etup package that is missing on OSS repository.. please add it ( it exist on suse <= 10.3 OSS ) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andreafl@libero.it added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c23 --- Comment #23 from andrea florio <andreafl@libero.it> 2008-06-14 01:42:29 MDT --- bug, and the "fixing installing hotkey-setup package" confirmed on a treadh on www.suseitalia.org forum. i'll aks the user to report his experience here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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Fabien Crespel <fabien@crespel.net> changed:

           What    |Removed                                         |Added
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                 CC|                                                |fabien@crespel.net
             Status|RESOLVED                                        |REOPENED
         Resolution|INVALID                                         |
            Version|RC 1                                            |Final




--- Comment #25 from Fabien Crespel <fabien@crespel.net>  2008-09-09 07:48:44 MDT ---
I'm reopening this bug as it *is* a regression from an user's point of view. As
andrea said, it did work out-of-the-box in 10.3 and stopped working in 11.0. I
was also affected by this regression on my ASUS laptop, and after going through
the issue, I would say there are multiple problems and multiple solutions. So
read on for a detailed technical explanation and my suggestions to fix this :-)

In 10.3, the hotkey-setup package was used to support multimedia/laptop keys.
>From what I've seen, it did the following:
- use setkeycodes in *.hk files to bind scancodes to keycodes, depending on
  the laptop model
- launch a kind of "ACPI-to-INPUT proxy" daemon (acpi-keys) to convert ACPI
  notifications from laptop drivers without a proper INPUT subsystem
  (like asus-laptop) to actual keys
- provide an xmodmap file to bind keycodes to keysyms (not sure how it was
  really applied though)

No matter what keyboard type was selected in SaX2/xorg.conf, hotkeys were
properly recognized (so no need for a personal .xmodmap in the home folder). It
"just worked".

However, this hotkey-setup package was removed in 11.0. I can easily understand
why, as a developer: it's very hackish and would be a burden in the future, and
just doesn't do things the right way:
1. the keycode-to-scancodes conversion should be supported in X out-of-the-box
2. the ACPI proxy is just Bad because the laptop driver itself should act as an
input driver (making maintenance easier because the key mappings would be done
by the driver and/or by HAL).

For 1, I believe the solution was to make the 'microsoftpro' keyboard type the
default in SaX2. This has been done in bug #210881 - BUT not for some
keyboards! indeed, there are still several pc102 keyboards there for French,
Italian, Spanish and other keyboards. This explains why I (fr-latin1 keyboard)
and Andrea (it keyboard) are affected by the problem, but not people with US or
German keyboards for example. I have reopened bug #210881 in hope this will be
fixed for 11.1 (if not already done in Factory).

For 2, there is really no proper solution until someone updates the laptop
driver, AFAIK. For 11.0 the only fix is to install hotkey-setup (even though
the Xmodmap hacks shouldn't be needed with the microsoftpro keyboard). For
11.1, I'm not sure what would be an acceptable solution if laptop drivers are
still not updated: use a temporary solution (acpi-keys) that "just works" for
the User, or purposefully keep it broken to raise attention to the problem?

Anyway, to sum up all this, in openSUSE 11.0 people only have working laptop
hotkeys if they have a microsoftpro default keyboard (depending on language)
AND have a laptop driver using the INPUT subsystem. For any other case, they're
screwed and see it as a regression, as hotkey-setup provided this functionality
in 10.3.


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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andrea@opensuse.org added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c27 --- Comment #27 from andrea florio <andrea@opensuse.org> 2008-10-15 10:53:23 MDT --- news from factory? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 Christian Zoz <zoz@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |zoz@novell.com Priority|P5 - None |P4 - Low -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andrea@opensuse.org added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c29 --- Comment #29 from andrea florio <andrea@opensuse.org> 2008-10-28 06:42:35 MDT --- on my Desktop looks working, or at least xev show me all key assigned.. not yet tested on my laptop. i'll report soon -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 Bug 398774 depends on bug 398846, which changed state. Bug 398846 Summary: HP Pavilion dv6700: unmapped keys generate unknown scancodes https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398846 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User andrea@opensuse.org added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c32 --- Comment #32 from andrea florio <andrea@opensuse.org> 2008-11-21 01:21:10 MST --- looks work.. i think the may be closed as FIXED. thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User jrobiso2@ford.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c34 --- Comment #34 from Jonathon Robison <jrobiso2@ford.com> 2008-12-05 09:34:21 MST --- OK, I'm a bit lost here with what you've done and why you closed this, guys. I run 11.0. I had hotkey-setup installed and volume buttons working. I think a recent update somehow killed that. So I went searching for it again. zypper showed it available (from packman) so I did 'zypper in hotkey-setup'. zypper said "nothing to do". Never did figure out why. I went searching. hotkey-setup was not available from either the OSS repo or the Update repo. How is this fixed (for 11.0) if it is not available from openSuSE, nor is it a "required" package (I would have made it a Req. for any laptop-only packages). So here's the situation for our users now: Laptop buttons don't work for sound, etc.; no package is installable from YaST to make them work; This bug entry is extremely hard to find unless you know EXACTLY what the problem is beforehand. Can we just put out an update to kbd rpm that has hotkey-setup as a req. (and put hotkey-setup rpm into the repo)? That way the fix gets out there and we aren't requiring newbies to learn the intricacies of HAL events, etc. or gain the sudden ability to search our bug list like a master? I REALLY REALLY want to re-open this bug, but I know that I am not perfect and may have overlooked or misunderstood something, so I will wait until somebody lets me know whats going on. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User jrobiso2@ford.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c36 --- Comment #36 from Jonathon Robison <jrobiso2@ford.com> 2008-12-05 10:56:25 MST --- openSuSE 11.0 Dell Latitude D620 All updates installed. Hal wasn't doing it's job then. I got sound back when I went out and found hotkey-setup (again), manually downloaded it, and installed it. I'll see about a new bug report after I upgrade the D620 to 11.1. Right now it runs in a VirtualBox session, so it isn't really seeing the true hardware, etc. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774 User we.ha@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398774#c38 --- Comment #38 from Werner Habel <we.ha@gmx.net> 2009-01-04 10:03:46 MST --- install of hotkey-setup from packman (11.0 version) solves the issue on 11.1 ... again. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.