https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893270 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893270#c2 Scott Couston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |secure@aphofis.com --- Comment #2 from Scott Couston 2014-08-25 09:39:00 EST --- I understand what you have all inherited from yast. Whilst I'm very happy with command line interface, I cant say the same for users. Yast central management is the major difference in our Distro and Enterprise so what ever is in Yast is expected to work. Its so difficult to inform users that they use the KDE Control Module for something and Yast for other and both KDE control Module and Yast have online updates but Yast does a far better job at managing updates and resolving conflicts. I'm not sure what this was assigned to Apparmor...perhaps it was my classification error in not specifying Yast as the classification. We are both half a world away and us understanding each other is somewhat difficult but I'm not sure why Yast is just removing stuff rather than fixing it...legacy design or not we only look great when were enhancing the product and not just taking stuff out we dont like or is too difficult to fix. At the end of everything it comes down to usability and I cant teach a user to be a teck and so far we just seem to be removing the usability of our product. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893270 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893270#c4 Steffen Winterfeldt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Yast AppApprmor - Removal |[yast2-apparmor] Removal of |of Functional Aspect to |Functional Aspect to Create |Create an AppArmor Profile |an AppArmor Profile by Self |by Self Learning an |Learning an Application |Application Execution |Execution --- Comment #4 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2014-08-25 12:00:50 CEST --- The apparmor module doesn't have a maintainer. Volunteers welcome. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893270 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893270#c6 --- Comment #6 from Scott Couston 2014-08-28 10:18:26 EST --- (In reply to comment #4)

The apparmor module doesn't have a maintainer. Volunteers welcome.

Steffen Since 12.1 functionality has been removed from Yast Apparmor for every release there after. In 12.1 the correction was made that enabled the online sharing of others profiles they created. In 12.2 this online sharing was removed and email notification was removed. In 12.3 the ability to create a new profile via a 'lerning mode' was removed and replaced to what is currently shown in Apparmor 12.3 to 'scan for applications running' and thus the user created a learn profile however this has never worked in 12.3. Now in 13.1 this ability to create a learned profile has been removed and my guess is that its come from Novell.com Enterprise which may have flowed backward...anyway that's a theory. So as the API is changing functionally that person must exist. I'll look up help to find all the AA command line functions but the selection of 'documentation' from a default KDE install is not selected by default. Local help in general has no info in it as the package group that installed, their help and man pages went with 12.x and the ability for the user to recreate indexes as more packages are installed with their help files, no longer available. The help module in general is useless in two ways now...It contains very little content and no ability to search as indexes can be generated after you install a package or install man pages. Help without indexes is useless. I logged that bug back in 12.x as the theory of using net based help is not a good one its more data and processing load, less functionality specific to the installation IF the user has a workable Internet connection in the first instance. I noticed the new emphasis on quality assurance the the opensuse page and finally I hope you'll be given a paid problem manager. Without a dedicated Problem Manager, PMS systems are pretty useless and in 16 years of moving from site to site in Europe, the UK and the USA; I have never once seen a PMS system with no full time problem manager as its fundamental purpose become a mute point. Having so many bugs out must be disheartening given the resources you have available but someone has control of Apparmor to retract things with every release. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.