https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886 User sfurdal@ehelp.pl added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886#c1 --- Comment #1 from Sebastian Furdal 2008-04-25 12:36:23 MST --- Created an attachment (id=210574) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=210574) Disk (GIMP) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886 Christoph Thiel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |aschnell@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886#c4 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |coolo@novell.com AssignedTo|coolo@novell.com |mge@novell.com --- Comment #4 from Stephan Kulow 2008-04-28 04:10:30 MST --- Actually this fits the feedback I got during fosdem - the _HUGE_ majority of (power) users has to change the proposal. But the "Create" and "Edit" buttons are already more prominently as they were in previous releases. This was on the behalf of this feedback. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886 User mge@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886#c6 Matthias Eckermann changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mge@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |sfurdal@ehelp.pl --- Comment #6 from Matthias Eckermann 2008-04-29 04:06:15 MST --- I do not completly understand the request, I fear:-( Is it (1) about leaving space for windows or other OSes? (2) or about _how_ the Linux partitioning should look like? (3) or about both? I personally have a rather "sophisticated" partitioning (people say: "crazy"), thus I am planning to propose a LVM based partitioning as one(!) option (and default for our Enterprise Server product) with roughly(!) this layout. /dev/sda1 /boot /dev/sda2 /swap /dev/sda3 # system VG / /usr /opt /var /dev/sda4 # data VG /tmp /home /srv This more or less resembles the defaults of Unix/BSD systems. As said: it is the "extended" variant of what I can imagine for systems, where Linux is allowed to control the whole harddisk. For systems with shared windows partitions the layout should be different. And suggestions? Comments? Ideas? Proposals? Thanks in advance - so long - MgE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886 User mge@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886#c9 Matthias Eckermann changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |suse-beta@cboltz.de --- Comment #9 from Matthias Eckermann 2008-05-06 20:56:51 MST --- Hello and thanks for the answers. Please see my comments below.? (In reply to comment #8 from Sebastian Furdal)

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(1) about leaving space for windows or other OSes? (1)(1)does the idea of „automatic partitioning” is to make monopoly in one OS on one computer? [sarcasm]

I agree: I have at least 3 openSUSE/SLES systems on my systems, and every fresh installation tries to kill my "vg_data". This is just annoying and will be fixed.

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(2) or about _how_ the Linux partitioning should look like? (2)(2)Yes, its only a proposal, more details I can make in some free time.

I also have some ideas there, ...

(4)(4)but openSUSE is mostly installed by less advanced users, who mostly do not know anything about Servers

Well, that does not necessarily be true according to other requests I see:-) But I agree that the "less advanced users" have to be covered in the most save way.

[...] This is something that makes openSUSE behind almost all major GNU/Linux distributions. [...]

Well, you might simply avoid those type of comments, please, as it weakens your very valid points above and below ( because people might become angry ).

(6)(6)Propose: [...]

Instead of your proposal let me post a proposal I wrote roughly 2 years ago here in bugzilla (closed bug); in meta-programming-language (and covering also datacenter use e.g. of SLES product): if( SAN-storage-found ) { expert-partitioning(); } else if( num-of-harddisks > 1 ) { expert-partitioning(); } else if( only-one-windows-partition_on( first_harddisk ) ) { # case 2 below partitioning-with-shrink( first_harddisk ) | expert-partitioning(); } else if( some-partitions-but-free-space_on( first_harddisk ) ){ # case 3 below partitioning-without-shrink-or-delete_on (first_harddisk ) | expert-partitioning(); } else if( some-partitions-but-no-free-space_on( first_harddisk ) ) { expert-partitioning(); } else if( multiple-existing-OSes-found ){ expert-partitioning(); } else { # empty harddisk, case 1 below default-partitioning(); } I would like to see that a little bit less complex, but I hope it could be a good start; I also hope we can agree that there are only three relatively "safe" & easy cases: 1. one empty harddisk 2. one harddisk full with another OS (most probably windows) 3. (at least) one (bigger) empty primary partition on first harddisk Everything else needs "knowledge" by the person in front of the computer, i.e. an "expert partitioner" YaST module to support this person, HTH - MgE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886 User sfurdal@ehelp.pl added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886#c11 --- Comment #11 from Sebastian Furdal 2008-07-20 03:40:24 MDT --- I think advanced partitioning should be rewritten, sometimes it is to complicated ... Your proposal is good but openSUSE should automatically propose simple and automatic solutions ... such as: - propose partitions where oS could be installed - propose automatic mount points - propose some profiles of partitioning etc. What You think? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886 User mge@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=383886#c13 Matthias Eckermann changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FEATURE --- Comment #13 from Matthias Eckermann 2009-01-21 03:59:28 MST --- move to openFATE#305716: Disk partitioning under installation -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.