[Bug 548445] New: [Kernel:HEAD/kernel-desktop] drivers modules
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 Summary: [Kernel:HEAD/kernel-desktop] drivers modules Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE.org Version: unspecified Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.1 Status: NEW Keywords: build Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: 3rd party software AssignedTo: jblunck@novell.com ReportedBy: webmaster@geomaticien.com QAContact: opensuse-communityscreening@forge.provo.novell.com Found By: --- Overview: Devices drivers updates are impossibles, because drivers are built in the kernel and not as modules. Actual results: All builtin drivers could NOT be updated by just a driver update compiled for this kernel flavor and installed as my-driver-update.ko in /lib/modules/<kernel>/updates. Expected: All the drivers modules should be compiled as modules and NOT builtin. Others distros and other flavors generally compile these drivers as modules, as this is required to be able to compile and use a driver update without recompiling the whole kernel. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 Daniel FAIVRE <webmaster@geomaticien.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P1 - Urgent Severity|Major |Critical -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c1 Stephan Binner <binner@kde.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P1 - Urgent |P5 - None --- Comment #1 from Stephan Binner <binner@kde.org> 2009-11-17 04:55:53 UTC --- Please read http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/Definitions#Bug_Priorities -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c2 Jan Blunck <jblunck@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|jblunck@novell.com |kernel-maintainers@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com --- Comment #2 from Jan Blunck <jblunck@novell.com> 2010-07-20 08:33:18 UTC --- Not my call. Reassign to kernel-maintainers list. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c3 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jslaby@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Jiri Slaby <jslaby@novell.com> 2010-08-23 16:06:48 UTC --- (In reply to comment #0)
Overview: Devices drivers updates are impossibles, because drivers are built in the kernel and not as modules.
Which drivers exactly? It is built-in to speed up the boot process.
Actual results: All builtin drivers could NOT be updated by just a driver update compiled for this kernel flavor and installed as my-driver-update.ko in /lib/modules/<kernel>/updates.
Why would you update single drivers? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c Jiri Slaby <jslaby@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|[Kernel:HEAD/kernel-desktop |[Kernel:HEAD/kernel-desktop |] drivers modules |] drivers are built-in and | |not modules -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c Jiri Slaby <jslaby@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |webmaster@geomaticien.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c4 --- Comment #4 from Daniel FAIVRE <webmaster@geomaticien.com> 2010-09-03 19:04:29 UTC --- I encountered these problem with drivers for touchscreen on my HP laptop (ntrig driver), but it could happen with any other driver. It's NOT a good idea to have drivers built'in just to speed up the boot process because the price to pay is too heavy : unusability of OpenSuse with many hardwares. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c5 --- Comment #5 from Jiri Slaby <jslaby@novell.com> 2010-09-03 19:20:17 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4)
I encountered these problem
What problems exactly?
It's NOT a good idea to have drivers built'in just to speed up the boot process because the price to pay is too heavy : unusability of OpenSuse with many hardwares.
If you want to have highly modular kernel, don't use kernel-desktop. Kernel-desktop is optimized for desktops and has some modules built-in to speed up booting. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c6 --- Comment #6 from Daniel FAIVRE <webmaster@geomaticien.com> 2010-09-03 20:28:55 UTC --- That's THE problem !!! kernel desptop seems to fit well for a laptop, no ? I do not ask for a "highly modular kernel", just for a kernel that works with touchscreens. I assume that's not too exotical as many harwares now include such devices ... If OpenSuse maintaineers fails to have built'in support for touchscreens, at least, you should NOT built such modules in the kernel, for reasons exposed above. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c7 --- Comment #7 from Jiri Slaby <jslaby@novell.com> 2010-09-03 20:55:16 UTC --- (In reply to comment #6)
If OpenSuse maintaineers fails to have built'in support for touchscreens, at least, you should NOT built such modules in the kernel, for reasons exposed above.
Once again, could you specify which modules you try to add and which you don't want to be built-in? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c8 --- Comment #8 from Daniel FAIVRE <webmaster@geomaticien.com> 2010-09-08 22:30:41 UTC --- Once again : n-trig driver. BUT the fondamental problem is not restricted to one specific module : the real problem is to force some users to recompile a whole kernel just to support some now commons hardwares. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c9 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED InfoProvider|webmaster@geomaticien.com | Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #9 from Jiri Slaby <jslaby@novell.com> 2010-09-10 12:28:52 UTC --- (In reply to comment #8)
BUT the fondamental problem is not restricted to one specific module : the real problem is to force some users to recompile a whole kernel just to support some now commons hardwares.
No, it's not a problem, updating modules is simply not supported. And if you still want to do it on your own risk, you can use kernel-default. Or you may add a patch to your own OBS home project with kernel-desktop. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c10 --- Comment #10 from Daniel FAIVRE <webmaster@geomaticien.com> 2010-09-12 18:10:11 UTC --- Updating modules is supported on other distros, like Ubuntu. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c11 Daniel FAIVRE <webmaster@geomaticien.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #11 from Daniel FAIVRE <webmaster@geomaticien.com> 2010-09-12 18:11:53 UTC --- Updating modules is supported on other distros, like Ubuntu. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548445#c12 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #12 from Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.com> 2011-08-31 19:50:51 UTC --- openSUSE 11.1 is no longer supported. If this is still an issue on 11.4, please open a new bug for this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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