[Bug 741929] New: Serial port support no longer loaded thanks to Apple
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c0 Summary: Serial port support no longer loaded thanks to Apple Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 12.1 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: SuSE Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Printing AssignedTo: jsmeix@suse.com ReportedBy: roland@logikalsolutions.com QAContact: jsmeix@suse.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1 See Bug #673845. Apple removed BOTH parallel and serial support without telling anyone. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual Results: no serial support loaded Expected Results: serial support should be loaded -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c1 Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Platform|x86-64 |All Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> 2012-01-18 08:03:53 UTC --- # rpm -q cups cups-1.5.0-76.2 # rpm -ql cups | egrep 'backend/parallel|backend/serial' /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel /usr/lib/cups/backend/serial -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c2 Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #2 from Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com> 2012-01-18 15:44:03 UTC --- Until this actually gets installed automatically DO NOT consider it closed. See Bug 673845 and you might begin to understand what a PITA this is. Apple pooched the real world good. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c3 Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #3 from Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> 2012-01-18 16:44:08 UTC --- /usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel and /usr/lib/cups/backend/serial are installed (automatically) when the openSUSE 12.1 CUPS 1.5 package is installed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c4 Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #4 from Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com> 2012-01-18 18:33:56 UTC --- (In reply to comment #3)
/usr/lib/cups/backend/parallel and /usr/lib/cups/backend/serial are installed (automatically) when the openSUSE 12.1 CUPS 1.5 package is installed.
If they actually were installed, I could have gotten the serial printer running to print mailing labels. Instead I had to boot DOS. CUPS didn't even OFFER to look at a serial port and NONE of the stty commands would work on any tty number. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c5 Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Printing |Other Platform|All |x86-64 AssignedTo|jsmeix@suse.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com Summary|Serial port support no |Serial port does not work |longer loaded thanks to | |Apple | QAContact|jsmeix@suse.com |qa@suse.de --- Comment #5 from Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> 2012-01-19 08:19:11 UTC --- "NONE of the stty commands would work on any tty number" => not a CUPS issue but a general issue regarding the serial port. See what I wrote in bug #673845 in particular in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673845#c2 ----------------------------------------------------------------- CUPS autodetects, what can be autodetected in the current system. CUPS does not change the underlying system. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I.e. first it must work to send data via the serial port to the printer similar as described in http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installing_a_Printer e.g. by using as root command like # echo -en "\rHello\r\f" >/dev/ttyS0 (replace '/dev/ttyS0' with the device node for your serial port). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c6 --- Comment #6 from Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com> 2012-01-19 11:59:47 UTC --- The kernel and install relies on CUPS to load BOTH serial and parallel... This EXACT system booted in DOS with same cable and printer works perfectly fine with COPY LBL.TXT COM1: Absolutely NOTHING worked in 12.1 with CUPS 1.5.x, but it worked with a live CD of both Ubuntu and Puppy Linux which did not have 1.5.x. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c zj jia <zjjia@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |zjjia@suse.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |jsmeix@suse.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c7 Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|jsmeix@suse.com |zjjia@suse.com --- Comment #7 from Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> 2012-01-19 14:08:54 UTC --- CUPS relies on the kernel to provide a working serial port. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c8 --- Comment #8 from Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> 2012-01-19 14:10:39 UTC --- Read what I wrote in bug #673845 in particular read https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673845#c2 ------------------------------------------------------------ CUPS does not change the underlying system. In particular CUPS does not change the kernel by loading or re-loading kernel modules. ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c9 --- Comment #9 from Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com> 2012-01-19 14:27:52 UTC --- (In reply to comment #8)
Read what I wrote in bug #673845 in particular read https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673845#c2 ------------------------------------------------------------ CUPS does not change the underlying system. In particular CUPS does not change the kernel by loading or re-loading kernel modules. ------------------------------------------------------------
You need to read comments from 80 forward since there are now kernel level patches being created to replace what CUPS no longer does now that Apple chose to pooch the world. The same type of fix is now needed for serial ports since Apple dropped them both. Thanks Apple. Thanks for not being a company which understands anything about business systems OR AN INSTALLED BASE! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c11 kk zhang <kkzhang@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kkzhang@suse.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |jsmeix@suse.com |ovo.novell.com | --- Comment #11 from kk zhang <kkzhang@suse.com> 2012-04-12 06:49:38 UTC --- Hi,could you please help to have a look this?I am not sure whether it is right to assign it to you.Feel free to reassign it.Thank you. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c12 Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jsmeix@suse.com Found By|--- |Community User AssignedTo|jsmeix@suse.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com --- Comment #12 from Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@suse.com> 2012-04-25 10:18:38 UTC --- I already had a look, see my above comments, in particular see comment #5. I have no printer with a serial connection so that I cannot reproduce issues related to serial printers. I guess it is a general issue regarding the serial port (see comment #5) but I have no knowledge how to set up the serial port in general - I can read "man setserial" but I never used it. I didn't use a serial port since ages. My last usage was years ago with a serial modem at home which "just worked" for me. I don't know who could debug general issues regarding the serial port so that I can only reset assignee to default. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |kernel-maintainers@forge.pr |ovo.novell.com |ovo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c13 Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |roland@logikalsolutions.com Severity|Major |Critical --- Comment #13 from Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com> 2012-06-25 14:15:15 EDT --- Roland, the issue in bnc#673845 is different. That was a problem with the parport_pc module not getting loaded since the /dev/lp* nodes weren't found. Serial ports should always have the /dev/ttyS* nodes there since they're properly enumerated in the kernel. Did the echo test Johannes mentioned in comment #5 work for you? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c14 Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED InfoProvider|roland@logikalsolutions.com | --- Comment #14 from Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com> 2012-07-04 20:06:28 UTC --- (In reply to comment #13)
Roland, the issue in bnc#673845 is different. That was a problem with the parport_pc module not getting loaded since the /dev/lp* nodes weren't found. Serial ports should always have the /dev/ttyS* nodes there since they're properly enumerated in the kernel.
Did the echo test Johannes mentioned in comment #5 work for you?
My last 2 clients have mandated I use Ubuntu for their projects, so I have no way of testing now. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741929#c15 Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED CC| |jslaby@suse.com Resolution| |NORESPONSE --- Comment #15 from Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com> 2012-07-09 06:49:48 UTC --- (In reply to comment #14)
My last 2 clients have mandated I use Ubuntu for their projects, so I have no way of testing now.
Ok, if you ever have a chance to test this, please reopen. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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