[Bug 1201557] New: Whole system has become generally unstable, basically useless lately
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 Bug ID: 1201557 Summary: Whole system has become generally unstable, basically useless lately Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed Version: Current Hardware: x86-64 OS: openSUSE Tumbleweed Status: NEW Severity: Critical Priority: P5 - None Component: Other Assignee: screening-team-bugs@suse.de Reporter: php4fan@gmail.com QA Contact: qa-bugs@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- Since some relatively recent updates, a lot of applications (basically all those that I use regularly) have become unstable: - GIMP - Google Chrome - PhpStorm - PlasmaShell among others By unstable I mean that any one of these applications will at any random time start to: - mostly stop responding to keyboard and/or mouse - random rectangles within its window will frantically flicker and show random garbage - sometimes just freeze - become completely unusable and I'll eventually be forced to close it and restart it It's hard to believe that all of these random unrelated applications (that also happen to be basically every single application that I use on a daily basis) just got bugs with identical symptoms all at the same time. It must be something at the system level. Note that usually they don't all freeze or become unresponsive or go berserk at the same time. They will do that separately and independently of each other. I've been reporting bugs to most of those applications until I've come to realize that they are exhibiting the same nonsensical behavior and all started at about the same time. This is obviously critical as it renders the whole system unusable and often leads to the loss of unsaved work. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c1 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mrmazda@earthlink.net --- Comment #1 from Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> --- I looked at some of your other bugs. The randomness suggests some possibility you've developed a RAM or memory controller problem, or possibly some other hardware failure, maybe heat related. Do you do anything to ensure the laptop is running as cool as possible? Have you tried running memtest86 (not memtest86+, which is unrelated except by name to memtest86)? How often are you running zypper dup? Have you tried a virgin user? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c2 --- Comment #2 from teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> ---
maybe heat related
The noise of the cooling fan is not even audible when these things happen, nor most of the time in general (and yes, it does get audible when I have abnormally high CPU consumption). So, it's definitely not heat-related (or, if the heat has got so bad that it has damaged the hardware or is affecting its ability to work properly, and yet the cooling fan isn't even barely making an effort, then there would have to be a huge bug somewhere in regulating the fan speed).
Have you tried running memtest86?
Not before. I've tried now and: $ memtest86 If 'memtest86' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this: cnf memtest86 $ cnf memtest86 memtest86: command not found
How often are you running zypper dup?
Manually from a terminal, almost never. I usually click "Instal Updates" from the Software Updates widget-or-whatever-its-called. I do that every few days, sometimes weeks. When that fails with errors (and because it's stupid and doesn't give me options to what to do about them) _then_ I run zypper dup.
Have you tried a virgin user?
No. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c3 --- Comment #3 from teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> --- Is it this one? https://www.memtest86.com/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c4 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |php4fan@gmail.com Flags| |needinfo?(php4fan@gmail.com | |) --- Comment #4 from Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> --- (In reply to teo teo from comment #3)
Is it this one? https://www.memtest86.com/
Yes. (In reply to teo teo from comment #2)
How often are you running zypper dup?
Manually from a terminal, almost never. I usually click "Instal Updates" from the Software Updates widget-or-whatever-its-called. I do that every few days, sometimes weeks. When that fails with errors (and because it's stupid and doesn't give me options to what to do about them) _then_ I run zypper dup.
Many TW users who claim reliable service only use zypper. It's well tested, much better than the software updates widget, which as you say, can be stupid. I only ever use zypper for TW updates.
Have you tried a virgin user?
No.
It's a standard troubleshooting procedure, intended to determine whether happens only to one user, or not. It only to one user, it usually is pointing to a problem with user settings, possibly corruption. What does inxi -Faz --zv report? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c5 teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flags|needinfo?(php4fan@gmail.com | |) | --- Comment #5 from teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> ---
Many TW users who claim reliable service only use zypper. It's well tested, much better than the software updates widget, which as you say, can be stupid. I only ever use zypper for TW updates.
Well then why does OpenSUSE come with the widget installed by default? (actually that's obviously the way to go, the real question is why isn't enough effort put into making it as complete and as reliable as zypper dup) Anyway, I ran memtest86 and it found no errors in 4 passes (2 hours). Can we dismiss the hypothesis of a hardware failure?
(virgin user) It's a standard troubleshooting procedure
Well I don't have the time for that.
inxi -Faz --zv System: Kernel: 5.18.9-1-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.1.0 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.18.9-1-default root=/dev/mapper/system-root splash=silent resume=/dev/system/swap mitigations=auto quiet Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.25.2 tk: Qt v: 5.15.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20220708 Machine: Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 81WE v: IdeaPad 3 15IIL05 serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 v: IdeaPad 3 15IIL05 serial: <superuser required> Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0J40709 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO v: EMCN14WW date: 05/11/2020 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 42.0 Wh (100.0%) condition: 42.0/45.0 Wh (93.3%) volts: 12.6 min: 11.3 model: Celxpert L19C3PF7 type: Li-poly serial: <filter> status: full cycles: 12 CPU: Info: model: Intel Core i7-1065G7 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ice Lake built: 2019-21 process: Intel 10nm family: 6 model-id: 0x7E (126) stepping: 5 microcode: 0xB0 Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 320 KiB desc: d-4x48 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 4x512 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 1300 high: 1301 min/max: 400/3900 scaling: driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave cores: 1: 1301 2: 1301 3: 1300 4: 1300 5: 1300 6: 1300 7: 1300 8: 1301 bogomips: 23961 Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx Vulnerabilities: <filter> Graphics: Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G7 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen11 process: Intel 10nm built: 2019-21 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 off: eDP-1 empty: none bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:8a52 class-ID: 0300 Device-2: Syntek Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-5:4 chip-ID: 174f:118d class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.3 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.2 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: intel gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 506x285mm (19.92x11.22") s-diag: 581mm (22.86") Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 pos: primary model: Samsung S24D330 serial: <filter> built: 2019 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2 size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77") diag: 609mm (24") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400 Monitor-2: eDP-1 note: disabled model: BOE Display 0x0812 built: 2018 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 142 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080 OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel Iris Plus Graphics (ICL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 22.1.3 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP Smart Sound Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_icl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:34c8 class-ID: 0403 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.18.9-1-default running: yes Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.0 running: yes Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.53 running: yes Network: Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 00:14.3 chip-ID: 8086:34f0 class-ID: 0280 IF: wlp0s20f3 state: up mac: <filter> Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel Bluetooth 9460/9560 Jefferson Peak (JfP) type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-10:5 chip-ID: 8087:0aaa class-ID: e001 Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: see --recommends Drives: Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 115.73 GiB (24.3%) SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: SK Hynix model: HFM512GDHTNI-87A0B size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 11010C00 temp: 37.9 C scheme: GPT Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 166.45 GiB size: 166.45 GiB (100.00%) used: 24.42 GiB (14.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 254:0 mapped: system-root ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 260 MiB size: 256 MiB (98.46%) used: 32.9 MiB (12.8%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1 ID-3: /home raw-size: 302.9 GiB size: 302.75 GiB (99.95%) used: 91.27 GiB (30.1%) fs: xfs dev: /dev/dm-2 maj-min: 254:2 mapped: system-home ID-4: /opt raw-size: 166.45 GiB size: 166.45 GiB (100.00%) used: 24.42 GiB (14.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 254:0 mapped: system-root ID-5: /var raw-size: 166.45 GiB size: 166.45 GiB (100.00%) used: 24.42 GiB (14.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 254:0 mapped: system-root Swap: Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.33 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/dm-1 maj-min: 254:1 mapped: system-swap Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 280 Uptime: 0h 11m wakeups: 1 Memory: 7.33 GiB used: 3.42 GiB (46.6%) Init: systemd v: 250 target: graphical (5) default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.1.1 alt: 11/12 Packages: N/A note: see --pkg flatpak: 0 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.19
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http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c6 --- Comment #6 from teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> --- Now I just remembered about https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1184817 (system going berserk when using wired connection through USB-to-ethernet adapter) The symptoms are quite different, but some time ago I started using the wired connection again, to see if that issue was gone, and since I initially didn't observe any issue I forgot about it. Now I'm going back to wifi-only for a while to see if this issue goes away too, which would suggest it being related to 1184817. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Whole system has become |Whole system has become |generally unstable, |generally unstable, |basically useless lately |basically unusable lately -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c7 --- Comment #7 from teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> ---
Now I just remembered about https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1184817 (system going berserk when using wired connection through USB-to-ethernet adapter)
Nope, this is not that. I have gone back to using only wifi, and still I'm observing this issue. Guys this is ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL, this issue is a complete disaster. OpenSuse has become a completely unusable OS. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c8 --- Comment #8 from teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> --- Just happened to me again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c9 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #9 from Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> --- I see nothing to distinguish this from bug 1184817 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 1184817 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c10 --- Comment #10 from teo teo <php4fan@gmail.com> ---
I see nothing to distinguish this from bug 1184817
I see a couple of things that might: 1) 1184817 seemed to systematically go away when using wifi network and reappear when using wired network. This one persists regardless. This one clearly has nothing to do with wired network. I have disconnected the USB-to-ethernet adapter entirely, and I'm still suffering from the issue. 1) the symptoms are different. That one usually started with lack of response to keyboard and mouse actions. There was never any flickering nor instances of different pieces of the screen being inconsistent with each other. This one usually starts with random flickering of parts of the screen, then parts of the screen apparently failing to update, or "blinking" between displaying current and random previous content. When stuff starts to stop responding entirely, I actually wonder whether "behind the screen" applications are actually responding and doing their job but the display is just not updating. I haven't been able to test and either confirm or discard that hypothesis, because it's very hard to tell, and in order to do that you would have to be able to interact "blindly" with applications without any visual feedback. I'm not good at that. Having said that, it's _possible_ that they are the same bug, but it would mean that: - when I repeatedly tested stopping using ethernet and using it again, it was a complete coincidence that 1184817 seemed to go away when not using ethernet, while it was infact completely random - the symptoms changed pretty drammatically and overnight for some reason (or have always been random and by pure chance I have lately been observing different variations of them). All that seems unlikely, although not impossible. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557#c11 Andreas Stieger <Andreas.Stieger@gmx.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |Andreas.Stieger@gmx.de --- Comment #11 from Andreas Stieger <Andreas.Stieger@gmx.de> --- See bug 1200306 and bug 1200336 for existing network and bus issues (and others) for this user. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201557 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|mrmazda@earthlink.net | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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