https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247#c1 --- Comment #1 from H. Hansen 2011-02-09 17:13:41 UTC --- this bug is even worse with kde-4.6, where the disk can only be mounted via root privileges. this seems to be an kernel and hal/udisks problem. please see also this discussion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/153768 I know, with coming usb-3.0, esata expansion will not continue as strong as extpected, but still, many modern notebooks and desktop-boards have esata ports. and they should behave (displayed/mount/unmount) like usb ports for users. For example it is not possible for me to automount my esata drive at kde start. please have a look at this, before releasing opensuse-11.4! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247#c3 --- Comment #3 from H. Hansen 2011-02-09 18:27:33 UTC --- yes, I am asked via a dialog box. Another problem is, that the drive is not shown in device-notifier, unless I let the notifier show all devices (also non removable). Please also note https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12898 so, there seems to be a possibility to fix this issue. I think this fix will start with the kernel, but layers on top have to use this? is there also a workaround for opensuse-11.3? kde < 4.6 used HAL, so up to then, I had a HAL rule as workaround: <device> 3 <!-- Samsung 250 GB esata device--> 4 <match key="storage.serial" string="WDC_WD2500BEVT-00ZCT0_WD-WXE0A99N0986"> 5 <merge key="storage.is_external" type="bool">true</merge> 6 </match> 7 <match key="storage.is_external" bool="true"> 8 <merge key="storage.removable" type="bool">true</merge> 9 <merge key="storage.hotpluggable" type="bool">true</merge> 10 <merge key="volume.ignore" type="bool">false</merge> 11 </match> 12 <match key="@block.storage_device:storage.is_external" bool="true"> 13 <merge key="volume.ignore" type="bool">false</merge> 14 </match> -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247#c5 --- Comment #5 from H. Hansen 2011-02-09 18:52:15 UTC --- yes, this works in windows vista/7. could you give me some hint about the udev rule workaround? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247#c7 --- Comment #7 from Karsten König 2011-02-20 19:41:12 UTC --- *** Bug 566062 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=566062 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247#c H. Hansen changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Kernel |Kernel Product|openSUSE 11.3 |openSUSE 11.4 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247#c10 Jeff Mahoney changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jeffm@novell.com AssignedTo|kernel-maintainers@forge.pr |ksievers@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | --- Comment #10 from Jeff Mahoney 2011-04-19 21:55:57 UTC --- Kay, Jeff Garzik has been pushing back on making a separate attribute for removable. The Launchpad bug has pointers to what hal has done to work around this. Can we do the same with udev (re bitwise ops)? http://cgit.freedesktop.org/hal/commit/?id=23267656d59fe56cb6401f65a278c3ee2... http://cgit.freedesktop.org/hal/commit/?id=829968ed2ace38908db3ead8204d544d7... http://cgit.freedesktop.org/hal/commit/?id=dea5997df8966719d707b7136621ffd37... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247#c11 --- Comment #11 from Kay Sievers 2011-04-19 23:00:08 UTC --- (In reply to comment #10)

Kay, Jeff Garzik has been pushing back on making a separate attribute for removable. The Launchpad bug has pointers to what hal has done to work around this. Can we do the same with udev (re bitwise ops)?

No, udev can't really do that with rules. It could be done in ata_id maybe, or maybe it could be done udisks, don't know though, what's the policy to do such things there. Guess the real fix it to properly define what volumes need "root" to get mounted and which not. The idea of relying on the kernel to export a "removable" flag sounds pretty weird with today's storage buses. Until that is eventually sorted out, the root password is needed to mount the volume, or policykit needs to be configured not to ask for the root password for internal devices. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623247#c13 --- Comment #13 from H. Hansen 2011-04-26 18:57:26 UTC --- for all people who need a workaround: there exists an udisks patch, which then allows an udev-rule for the specific device (mark it manually as external). I'll attach it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.