[Bug 678456] New: Laptop install: NetworkManager is not running and not setup properly
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c0 Summary: Laptop install: NetworkManager is not running and not setup properly Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.4 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: yast2-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: aj@novell.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: Product Management Blocker: --- Created an attachment (id=418521) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=418521) yast2 log files I got the following from a journalist together with log files: During installation no network cable was attached and afterwards, NetworkManager was not running - and the network interfaces not working either. I'm attaching the log files. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c1 --- Comment #1 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> 2011-03-10 10:27:26 UTC --- Btw. this happened on two laptops. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c3 Martin Vidner <mvidner@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Summary|Laptop install: |NetworkManager is not |NetworkManager is not |running (laptop not |running and not setup |detected) |properly | --- Comment #3 from Martin Vidner <mvidner@novell.com> 2011-03-10 11:50:46 CET --- On openSUSE, NM is enabled iff the machine is a laptop. The log shows yast thinks it is not a laptop. As NM is installed, it is enough to enable it in "yast2 lan", or edit /etc/sysconfig/network/config and rcnetwork restart. I haven't looked up the machine details yet. Hopefully it is an obscure one ;-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c4 Martin Vidner <mvidner@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |aj@novell.com --- Comment #4 from Martin Vidner <mvidner@novell.com> 2011-03-10 11:57:47 CET --- Can you please attach hwinfo output? http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bugreport_YaST#I_reported_a_YaST2_bug.2C_and... hm, the wiki is overloaded (yay!) """ Issue this command: hwinfo >/tmp/hwinfo.txt and attach the resulting file hwinfo.txt to Bugzilla. """ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c5 --- Comment #5 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> 2011-03-10 13:56:10 UTC --- Just read elsewhere: Achtung: NetworkManager! Achten Sie bei der Installation eines OpenSuse-Systems auf einem Notebook darauf, das WLAN-Modul eingeschaltet zu haben. Ist die WLAN-Karte bei der Installation nicht aktiv, dann richtet OpenSuse den Netzwerkmanager nicht ein und Sie müssen die WLAN-Verbindung umständlich über YaST einrichten (bzw. über die Netzwerkeinstellungen von YaST zunächst zum Netzwerkmanager zurückwechseln. Martin, this means: WLAN needs to be enabled otherwise NetworkManager is not used. Could this be the problem? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c6 Martin Vidner <mvidner@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |snwint@novell.com --- Comment #6 from Martin Vidner <mvidner@novell.com> 2011-03-10 17:53:01 CET --- Steffen, is that how hwinfo decides the system form factor? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c7 --- Comment #7 from Steffen Winterfeldt <snwint@novell.com> 2011-03-10 18:05:58 CET --- No. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c8 --- Comment #8 from Steffen Winterfeldt <snwint@novell.com> 2011-03-10 18:07:06 CET --- Please run 'hwinfo --sys --log=foo' and attach the log. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c9 Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED InfoProvider|aj@novell.com | --- Comment #9 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> 2011-03-11 08:40:52 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=418776) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=418776) hwinfo output Steffen, is the attached enough (from comment 4) or do you need more -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c10 --- Comment #10 from Steffen Winterfeldt <snwint@novell.com> 2011-03-11 10:08:07 CET --- Chassis Info: #3 Manufacturer: "Acer" Version: "N/A" Serial: "None" Type: 0x01 (Other) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, doesn't say anything about Notebook or similar. Nothing I can do (apart from quirks like adding this particular notebook to a whitelist or so). Maybe using the computer type to decide whether to use NM is not a good idea after all. It's been around for several years now. Why not making it the default? Or at least when wifi is available. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c11 --- Comment #11 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> 2011-03-11 09:19:04 UTC --- I think we have two bugs here: * The one is that Networkmanager is not used * The other is that traditional ifup is used but the automatic configuration sets the network interfaces to "unconfigured" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c12 --- Comment #12 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> 2011-03-11 09:46:26 UTC --- Feedback from Ernst Ahlers/Heise: I agree with Steffen: If a wifi interface exists, let's use NetworkManager by default. You could also check whether a battery is attached. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c13 Marcel Hilzinger <marcel@hilzinger.hu> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |marcel@hilzinger.hu --- Comment #13 from Marcel Hilzinger <marcel@hilzinger.hu> 2011-03-11 09:57:03 UTC --- I had the same issue. According to hwinfo my testlaptop is a Desktop (0x03), so there was no Networkmanager working after installation. But there was also no network after pluging the ethernet cable, only after rcnetwork restart. So there seems to be no hotplug with traditional ifup. Networkmanager should be the default for _all_ machines. Let's not even try to make it depend on some existing hardware. Think about users installing a desktop machine with ethernet and later buying a WiFi-Card or USB-dongle. WiFi will not work for them without Networkmanger. And be honest: who want's to set up a Wifi connection within YaST??? Would you do? No, so why should OpenSuse users do so? Someone who does not want to user Networkmanager is a power user and knows how to setup the network connection manually/traditionally. For all other users it's just very hard to find out, why the network is not working. Networkmanager works very stable an at least for Ethernet I didn't had any problems within the last 2 years or so. So please make it the default for 11.4+ and to keep it simple let's be the default for every machine. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c14 --- Comment #14 from Steffen Winterfeldt <snwint@novell.com> 2011-03-11 11:41:37 CET --- Independent of the NM discussion, I've now changed hwinfo (v18.5) to report system type notebook if (chassis = notebook or mouse = touchpad or battery). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c Martin Vidner <mvidner@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|NetworkManager is not |[yast2-network] |running (laptop not |NetworkManager is not |detected) |running (laptop not | |detected) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c16 Martin Vidner <mvidner@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mvidner@suse.com --- Comment #16 from Martin Vidner <mvidner@suse.com> 2012-01-31 14:54:53 CET --- *** Bug 730715 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730715 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678456#c18 Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #18 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.com> 2014-07-23 08:09:11 UTC --- no reaction ;( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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