[Bug 243036] New: SuspendToDisk (hibernate) always fails the second time
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 Summary: SuspendToDisk (hibernate) always fails the second time Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Final Platform: i686 OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Basesystem AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: danielstefanmader@web.de QAContact: qa@suse.de When putting the laptop to sleep again a second time after a successful first suspend/resume cycle, the computer always hangs: the screen goes black and the system is preparing for hibernate -- and that's it. Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del pops up a second line which announces the system is going to reboot but nothing happens. Also no virtual console on Ctrl+Alt+F1..6 is available. The system is dead then. This has worked flawless before on 10.1, 10.2 betas and RCs and broke due to some update in 10.2 final. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 chrubis@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #1 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-07 08:24 MST ------- This bug *might* be related to bug #227404... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 jeffm@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kernel- |pavel@novell.com |maintainers@forge.provo.nove| |ll.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 jeffm@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| |kernel:10.2 affected:10.2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #2 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-11 09:14 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=118511) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=118511&action=view) latest logfile of a failed suspend I found that this bug seems not to happen when the laptop is running on battery only. As soon as it is plugged in again it freezes when the S2D is called the second time. Maybe this helps... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 pavel@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |seife@novell.com Severity|Major |Normal Status|NEW |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #3 from pavel@novell.com 2007-02-13 03:57 MST ------- 227404 is a powerpc bug, probably not related. Can you try suspending/resuming at init=/bin/bash (that is without many modules) to see if it breaks? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #4 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-13 13:27 MST ------- Sorry, no idea what you mean with init=/bin/bash. Is that a boot option? I have tried in runlevel 3 on a pretty much standard installation with powersave -U. Result: works flawless there. But I noticed something else: when it works, the first line says "Preparing hibernate..." opposed to "Preparing suspend..." when it fails! This is weird, isn't it?! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #5 from seife@novell.com 2007-02-13 15:01 MST ------- "Preparing hibernate..." is when you suspend to disk, "Preparing suspend..." when you suspend to RAM. So, the bottom line is: suspend to disk works, suspend to RAM doesn't. Or am i deciphering this wrong? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #6 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-14 04:14 MST ------- Unfortunately yes, there is a misunderstanding: I get this message (indicating that the machine is trying a suspend to RAM) when I want to suspend to disk with kpowersave. So something gets screwed up here after the first resume... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 seife@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fseidel@novell.com, hmacht@novell.com, | |dkukawka@novell.com ------- Comment #7 from seife@novell.com 2007-02-14 04:30 MST ------- oops, somehting is strange here :-) Danny, do you have any idea how the situation from Comment #6 can happen? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 dkukawka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |danielstefanmader@web.de ------- Comment #8 from dkukawka@novell.com 2007-02-14 06:19 MST ------- No, I have no idea why this happen. Could you check if this happen also with this KPowersave version: http://beta1.suse.com/private/dkukawka/kpowersave/0.7.2RC5/ (or http://beta1.suse.com/private/dkukawka/kpowersave/0.7.2RC6). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #9 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-15 11:07 MST ------- I tried with 0.7.2RC6 (the first link is dead) -- to the same result. Albeit it says "Preparing hibernate..." the system hangs the second time. BTW: it seems that restarting rcpowersaved in between helps. (The rpm from above has another drawback, too: when trying to S2D it complains every time about mounted external HDDs -- even when there are definitely none present at all and have never been in that session.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #10 from dkukawka@novell.com 2007-02-16 03:44 MST ------- The problem with the messages about the external media is a bug in KDE and not KPowersave (see bug #215262) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #11 from pavel@novell.com 2007-02-16 04:44 MST ------- Can you confirm you have latest bios and no binary-only modules? If it works in init 3 (but breaks in full multiuser), see what modules are different between runlevels, and find which one is responsible. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #12 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-16 06:27 MST ------- As for comment #11: yes, the BIOS is up2date (at least there is no newer version available to my knowledge) and I have no binary-only module (that is, since it is a Centrino laptop I am using the ipw2100-firmware...). I repeat: this has worked flawless before and broke sometime in 10.2 final. I will provide a diff between the loaded modules asap (tonight?). In reply to comment #10: the funny thing is: there are NO external media mounted at all! Not even plugged in. And never have been. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #13 from dkukawka@novell.com 2007-02-16 06:32 MST ------- Yes I know there are maybe no external media if this happen, but this is because KDE return an error and there is a bug in the KDE media manager. As I wrote: take a look at bug #215262. If the update for 10.2 get released the problem should be fixed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #14 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-17 02:31 MST ------- Created an attachment (id=119809) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=119809&action=view) holds modules.3 and modules.5 and modules.diff (all plain text) I tried in full runlevel 5 without kpowersave but CLI only, again to the same result (failing hibernate), so that I think we can cross off kpowersave from the list of suspects. Attached are the outputs of lsmod in runlevel 3 and 5, respectively, and the diff between them. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #15 from seife@novell.com 2007-02-17 09:13 MST ------- The diff is only "drm" and "i915" for which i do not have any failure reports. However, it hints on the 3d acceleration in the X server. Do you have that enabled, and if yes, does it help if you disable it? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #16 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-19 03:37 MST ------- Yes, I have been using 3D-acceleration. Disabling it makes no difference, though (I used sax2 in runlevel 3 to generate a completely new xorg.conf without 3D enabled) -- since this is the case and since vertical scrolling in Firefox is now horribly slow I will turn it on again until you need another testcase. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #17 from pavel@novell.com 2007-02-19 03:58 MST ------- So, it works in init 3, breaks in init 5, and 3d acceleration is not guilty? (But keep it disabled for now). Try to look at bug 230668, perhaps this is a duplicate? Can you try unloading ehci around suspend? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #18 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-19 07:54 MST ------- In reply to comment #17: yes, affirmative, I think 3D is not the culprit. Having looked at bug #230668 I very much think it could at least be related. Unfortunately I don't know how to unload ehci... The only matching module that I can find is ehci_hcd. And unloading this alone does not help. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 pavel@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|SuspendToDisk (hibernate) |Suspend to disk always fails the second time in |always fails the second time|init 5 (works ok in init 3) ------- Comment #19 from pavel@novell.com 2007-02-19 09:20 MST ------- If unloading ehci_hcd does not help, then you probably have another bug. Ok... you seem to be using ipw2100 with encryption; it is not active in init 3 and it is active in init 5. Can you try rmmoding ipw2100 in init 5, to see if it helps? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #20 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-19 14:46 MST ------- I can not and will not track down this bug any further. Everything really points to Networkmanager (or knetworkmananager, that is). I can suspend a million times with no problems at all but as soon as I connected with NM the machine hangs after the first successful cycle. I also noticed that when instead of trying a S2D I simply log out it takes X *ages* to restart and shows only a cursor on a black screen, waiting for something. Switching to a virtual terminal I can not even log in then at all. When X is back again I can at least reboot normally, though. Considering the fact that knetworkmanager is *still* not able to correctly and reliably look up stored passwords in the wallet I would suggest some *serious* debugging in that f*** app. Honestly, I am loosing patience with it. There are and have been a million bug reports concerning NetworkManager and its applet for KDE (also Gnome?!) many of which get closed as invalid all too quickly or get some soso fix which never really touches the insides, it seems. I am *not* going to file another report on this supercrappy, horribly buggy tool since there seems to be too little interest. A thorough code review is essential everything else is just a waste of time. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #21 from pavel@novell.com 2007-02-19 15:29 MST ------- Daniel, networkmanager, no matter how buggy it is, should not be able to cause kernel crash. We want to fix kernel, too. Now, networkmanager probably could use some auditing; you are welcome to help ;-). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #22 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-20 02:24 MST ------- Good morning :) New day, less anger... I do *not* think that we have a kernel crash! Plain and simply because when everything seems dead ("Preparing hibernate...") I can still press Ctrl+Alt+Del and the system informs me that it is going to reboot! So it is very much alive! It is just waiting for some rioting process to terminate which never happens. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #23 from seife@novell.com 2007-02-20 03:05 MST ------- Well, stopping processes times out and you gen an error message (in syslog, that is, but still). This looks more like a device driver going crazy, but triggered mainly by NetworkManager. You could also try if you can still switch to console 1 (probably log into console 1 before trying to suspend) and maybe check with "ps aux" what the system is doing. Maybe it is still doing something in userspace. A hanging "rmmod" for example would be a prime example for something that could trigger that. I know it is not funny to debug this and (un?)fortunately something like your bug seldom happens on the hardware/software combinations i use... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #24 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-20 03:44 MST ------- I have tried that already, of course: it is impossible to switch to a console, no matter if I have already logged in there or not. Concerning my hardware: I am using an Acer Travelmate 290LCi. Apart from that shitty i855 onboard graphics chipset I would consider it a pretty solid Centrino laptop... I really like it. And basically, I consider NetworkManager as *the* -- I repeat -- *the* innovation of the past years for Linux Desktops. Unfortunately it is still buggy as hell (even without that problem from above) and should come with an explicit "EXPERIMENTAL" sticker. Would be even better of course if it got rid of its children's diseases anytime soon. Also, I am missing a CLI for it :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #25 from pavel@novell.com 2007-02-26 00:56 MST ------- If it is not kernel crash, what is it? Can you add debugging to see _where_ it hangs in userspace? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #26 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-02-26 15:29 MST ------- I have no idea how to further debug this, honestly. It is that bloody NetworkManager thing... If I don't connect with it or if I kill it and do rcnetwork restart, then the suspend seems to work fine. Either way: something is odd, and WiFi without encryption (someone was suggesting that as a problem) is plain stupid, so this needs a fix, I'd say. If you could give me a more detailed description of what to do it'd be a pleasure for me to help you (and eventually me, that is :) BTW: I have installed the Boxed version this weekend because I was getting other weird behavior, most likely because of the million hard system power downs -- I have a lot of faith in Linux' journaled filesystems but this was apparently too much for ext3. And with a fresh and clean install and a new user I get exactly the same result concerning suspend2disk :( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #27 from pavel@novell.com 2007-03-01 03:41 MST ------- I do not know how to debug network manager. I'd use strace if it happened on my machine, would hit sysrq keys to dump the stacks, etc. You can also just add printf()s to network manager. But if network manager is _really_ responsible, perhaps this should go to nm people? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 meissner@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|kernel:10.2 affected:10.2 |kernel:10.2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #28 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-03-08 05:52 MST ------- I am really sorry but I am not experienced enough to go on with this. Maybe there is a howto somewhere that shows me how to collect relevant data of the happenings? Also, the latest update for knetworkmanager does not fix any of the big problems with it (neither this one nor bug #206641 nor bug #230838). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 pavel@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|danielstefanmader@web.de | Resolution| |WONTFIX Summary|Suspend to disk always fails|networkmanager breaks suspend to disk |the second time in init 5 | |(works ok in init 3) | ------- Comment #29 from pavel@novell.com 2007-03-23 05:25 MST ------- Sorry, I have never debugged network manager myself. I guess you could start reading man gdb, etc, but for now... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 danielstefanmader@web.de changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX | ------- Comment #30 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-04-10 13:48 MST ------- I am reopening this bug since it is so annoying to me. I can suspend and resume only once. Powering of the maching then works in most cases but does not when I do something with knetworkmanager before, such as going into offline mode. Please leave it open, maybe someone else will have an idea. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 pavel@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #31 from pavel@novell.com 2007-04-22 10:29 MST ------- Ok, so you are unwilling to debug the problem, yet you claim problem is so important that I can't close the report. And the problem seems to be in userspace parts, not in kernel. Show me that the problem is in the kernel, or open separate bug report against NetworkManager. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #32 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-04-23 02:23 MST ------- Is something wrong with you? I am *not able* to debug the problem. That is something different than "unwilling". Jesus. 10.1 had a nice and working powermanagement in my eyes, and 10.2 is a huge step backwards. Suspending features are a must on mobile computers. Very interesting to read that obviously you don't care shit about that. And concerning the third paragraph: 1) yes, the problem is in userspace, I agree. 2) Why should I, see 1) ? 3) You might want to have a look at the subject of the bug. This bug *is* a NetworkManager bug. Sorry if I sound harsh but I don't think it is a good idea to handle issues like that. I can live without suspend capabilities for some time but it really is unacceptable to not have them on the long run. Take a Mac, take any Windows laptop and compare. They set the standards. And you are not even willing to catch up. Very nice. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243036 ------- Comment #33 from danielstefanmader@web.de 2007-05-05 11:32 MST ------- Hi, just wanted to inform you that the latest kernel update obviously fixed the bug. I do no longer have suspend/hibernate problems at all. As it seems, NetworkManager was not the culprit. Sorry, hope you can forgive me, Best regards, Daniel -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
participants (1)
-
bugzilla_noreply＠novell.com