[Bug 441404] New: sax2: No longer write Monitor/Screen/ Device sections to allow dynamic changes in display configuration
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 Summary: sax2: No longer write Monitor/Screen/Device sections to allow dynamic changes in display configuration Product: openSUSE 11.1 Version: Beta4 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: SaX2 AssignedTo: sndirsch@novell.com ReportedBy: sndirsch@novell.com QAContact: sax2-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com CC: eich@novell.com, mhopf@novell.com, ms@novell.com, lverhaegen@novell.com Found By: --- A static configuration of resolution (Screen section), monitor sync values (Monitor section) and driver entry (Device section) avoids dynamic changes in display configuration. SaX2 no longer writing these sections would allow to have such changes configured automatically. Xserver probes for the right driver, driver probes for the monitor(s) and selects the native resolution(s) of the monitor(s). The alignment of several monitors can be done on-the-fly with your favorite RANDR >= 1.2 tool (xrandr, krandrtry, gnome-display-properties). Prerequsite are RANDR >= 1.2 drivers like intel, radeon, radeonhd, nv (G80 only). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c1 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |scrute@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-11-04 04:13:24 MST --- *** Bug 433953 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433953 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c2 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |alin.elena@yahoo.co.uk --- Comment #2 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-11-04 04:18:51 MST --- *** Bug 440965 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=440965 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User alin.elena@yahoo.co.uk added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c3 --- Comment #3 from Alin M Elena <alin.elena@yahoo.co.uk> 2008-11-04 05:15:29 MST --- I do not get it. How can this be seen as an enhancement if it does not allow me to use my external display, anymore? https://bugzilla.novell.com/440965 Alin -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c4 --- Comment #4 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-11-04 05:53:45 MST --- It does. You just need to reconfigure your setup, if you change it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User ms@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c5 --- Comment #5 from Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> 2008-11-04 07:08:17 MST --- Stefan if you don't have any monitor screen device sections anymore you don't need sax2 at all. I suggest to spent some time in a new configuration backend. I wrote sax2 in a way which separates the backend from the frontend. In fact the GUI module which is the one you don't want to loose just writes a file /var/lib/sax/apidata which is used by the backend to incorporate the changes into the current configuration I more and more have the feeling that the detection process and all the detailed exceptions from one vendor to the other are now handled by the drivers themselves and doesn't required any configuration information. At least for the newer cards this applies and so the sax2 backend which creates a first suggestion of a configuration file by detecting all these things outside of Xorg seems to become a useless part in the near future I will not allow changes which can be only hacks to the current backend to rip out core sections as of the original design. I'm fine with a new and modern backend while using the existing frontend Thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |445657 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User federico@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c7 Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |federico@novell.com Blocks| |374148 Status Whiteboard| |x-config, x-server --- Comment #7 from Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> 2008-11-29 16:14:07 MST --- We have bugs like bug #429282, in which xrandr(1) and the graphical tools do not show resolutions that the monitor supports, even though the monitor's EDID data says they are supported. Is the static configuration from sax2 the reason why this happens? If so, what can we do in the 11.1 time-frame (or even SLED11)? [By the way, it made me extremely happy to see from this bug that the plan is to get rid of the static configurations - kudos!] -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User mhopf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c8 --- Comment #8 from Matthias Hopf <mhopf@novell.com> 2008-12-01 07:49:22 MST --- (In reply to comment #7 from Federico Mena Quintero)
We have bugs like bug #429282, in which xrandr(1) and the graphical tools do not show resolutions that the monitor supports, even though the monitor's EDID data says they are supported. Is the static configuration from sax2 the reason why this happens?
It shouldn't. It rather looks like a driver bug.
[By the way, it made me extremely happy to see from this bug that the plan is to get rid of the static configurations - kudos!]
We always wanted to get there ASAP. But no earlier :-P -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c9 --- Comment #9 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2008-12-14 20:59:33 MST --- *** Bug 450130 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450130 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User sndirsch@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c10 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kpenrose@novell.com --- Comment #10 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-02-05 07:31:26 MST --- *** Bug 472604 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472604 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User federico@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c11 Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |vuntz@novell.com --- Comment #11 from Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> 2009-02-06 13:19:05 MST --- *** Bug 381024 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=381024 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User federico@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c12 Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |EB34307@lenovo.com --- Comment #12 from Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> 2009-02-06 13:55:06 MST --- *** Bug 466003 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466003 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 User federico@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404#c13 Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |glunardi@novell.com --- Comment #13 from Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> 2009-02-17 11:59:53 MST --- *** Bug 476478 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476478 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441404 Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alias| |sax-static-config -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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