[Bug 564953] New: The dynamical (non-statical) Xserver configuration of a Tablet PC (HP Pavilion tx2532la) fails during the installation: the system aborts, black screen, unresponsive to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and ACPI stimuli, and the same takes place when recurring to Sax2.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c0 Summary: The dynamical (non-statical) Xserver configuration of a Tablet PC (HP Pavilion tx2532la) fails during the installation: the system aborts, black screen, unresponsive to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and ACPI stimuli, and the same takes place when recurring to Sax2. Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.2 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.2 Status: NEW Severity: Critical Priority: P5 - None Component: X.Org AssignedTo: bnc-team-xorg-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com QAContact: xorg-maintainer-bugs@forge.provo.novell.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- Created an attachment (id=332784) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=332784) HP Pavilion tx2532la hardware information. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; es-ES; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091103 SUSE/3.5.5-1.1.2 Firefox/3.5.5 Before submit this issue I reviewed the bugs involving problems with video and TabletPCs, to avoid submit you something duplicated, and from https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539004 I realized you no longer rely on a static X configuration, although Xserver could read xorg.conf if available (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539004#c12), and I am very sorry about sax2. However, I think that there are clear advantages in the way it seems to be now (I remember me configuring Debian 2.2, so I know how gentle SuSE, which I use since 7, and Linux in general, have become), but I am not aware of them, and I am unfamiliar with the new dynamical X configuration: I have just jumped from openSuSE 10.2. Suggest me further reading on the new mechanism. But, since http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Laptops/HP#tx_XXXX_xx implies the using of sax2, there is good idea to keep it working as deserves so useful an historic tool, specially when the new dynamical X configuration fails. I understand the advantages of this new mechanism, but I couldn't taste it. I have Tablet PC, a new HP Pavilion tx2532la, which hardware info I'll attach, in which I setup painly openSuSE 11.2 because the booted system used to hung up when arrived to the setup devices stage during the second part of the installation. It was difficult for me realize that it was because Xorg doesn't configured the video output at all, because instead of falling into a terminal, the system hung up. I run several times the installation, with several kernel parameters, unsuccessfully. I run the firmware test and the BIOS built-in memory test, I verified the installed software, and followed the boot log, so I discarded any issue previous to the running of the X server. So, I loaded the rescue system, mounted my root partition on /mnt and ls /mnt/etc/X11 and... I didn't see a xorg.conf file but that of the install system (xorg.conf.install). Of course, then, last Sunday, December 13t, 2009, I had no idea of the new way the video setting up was functioning, if I had had I had been very confused concernig the abnormality. Thus I cp /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf.install /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf and init 6... and the system, instead of rebooting, hung up! It was not responsive to APCI stimuli. I took a hammer... After starting up the laptop, the install systems resumed and I got my login screen. As the tablet and the pen didn't work at all (I wasn't worry about that yet), as instructed http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Laptops/HP#tx_XXXX_xx, I invoked sax2 and... the system hung up (yes, again). All those situations involving the Xserver missfunctioning were unresponsive to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and ACPI stimuli. Aware of the absence of the Xor.conf file and its follows, after performing a new install one could do the following: stop "The Final Countdown" (Europe) and switch to consoles 2, 5, 6 or 9 and mount the root partition (mount -t ext 4 /dev/<device> /mnt) and cp /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf.install /mnt/etc/X11/xorg.conf, after that return to the install screen (F7), and accept then to reboot into the installed system without trouble and for the install program resumed and finished the installation. (In this second opportunity, the tablet and the pen were functional but somehow crazy.) However, I still can not call sax2 for configuring my devices, add an external monitor (Acer Al1916W), and so on, because the system hangs up (I insist: black screen, unresponsive to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and ACPI stimuli). And, concerning the issue https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=547900, I always installed wacom-kmp-desktop et alii, because I never use the pattern view during the install, but select the packages to install through the RPM categories tree, or the search engine (I had not noticed that there was a TabletPC pattern till the reading of this link). Whether would you suggest me how to configure my devices (I had never configured a TabletPC before) editing the xorg.cong file meanwhile you hand over this issue, I'll be very thankful. I broke the hammer. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Install openSuSE 11.2 into a TabletPC (certaintly, into a HP Pavilion tx2532la) 2. 3. Actual Results: The system aborts, black screen, unresponsive to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and ACPI stimuli. Expected Results: Well, as I stated before, I jumped from openSuSE 10.2, so I was waiting for the stage in which I was able to configure my monitor, because it run sax2, in which there is (still? I don't know whether are or are not changes in sax2) a section to configure the tablet and multiple monitors. Now, I realize that I had just had a fully functional -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c1 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |publio.escipion.el.africano | |@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-12-16 06:30:28 UTC --- About SaX2 I suggest to read our announcement here http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2009-12/msg00017.html Apparently the radeonhd driver doesn't work for you. The easiest to still boot such a system is to select failsafe entry in the boot menu. Then the system automatically uses the xorg.conf.install (fbdev driver) for X configuration. I suggest to update the radeonhd driver and try again. http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Drivers:/Video/openSUSE_11.2/... http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Drivers:/Video/openSUSE_11.2/... If this doesn't help run sax2 -r -m 0=fbdev for configuration of wacom driver. Meanwhile wacom driver configuration should work on-the-fly (driver gets loaded via HAL and can be configured with xsetwacom/wacomcpl) though. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|The dynamical |radeonhd [RS780M/RS780MN/HD |(non-statical) Xserver |3200] System freeze during |configuration of a Tablet |Xserver startup |PC (HP Pavilion tx2532la) | |fails during the | |installation: the system | |aborts, black screen, | |unresponsive to | |Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and ACPI | |stimuli, and the same takes | |place when recurring to | |Sax2. | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium AssignedTo|bnc-team-xorg-bugs@forge.pr |eich@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c2 Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW CC| |publio.escipion.el.africano | |@gmail.com Info Provider|publio.escipion.el.africano | |@gmail.com | --- Comment #2 from Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> 2009-12-17 05:47:43 UTC --- Hello, Stefan Dirsch. Thank you for your advice. As it was evident that it was a problem of the X server involving a card that has proprietary driver that is not shipped with the distribution, but other, after I submit the bug, I downloaded the ATI driver from its web. I could not make a " Distribution Specific Driver Package ". So, I search into opensuse.org pages and I found a page about ATI cards and drivers which provided a link to the ATI repository, which I added. I installed the proprietary driver and invoked wacomcpl and xsetwacom, but they do not provided me the devices to which I could interact. Thus, worry, but hopeful at the sight of the good behavior of the X server after the installation, I called sax2. I run. I went directly to the manufacturer. I knew I have a Wacom, but hwinfo did not provided me of what kind (nor MS Windows Vista Home Premium before I erased: it is a habit to take the parameters of the devices from Windows just in case some thing went wrong). So, I tried the both Graphite, and the other two unsuccessfully before I clicked on TabletPC section and saw that there is a list of laptops from which one could pick up and set the device to work. Amen: The tablet and the stylus work, although I do not know how to tune both, because xsetwacom and wacomcpl do not detect my devices, and wacdump complaint of lacking the proper rights to access the device. And the Gimp list a confusing list from which I do no know what to pick. It is the first time I have an ATI and it is the first time I have a tablet. Since my first computer, a Compaq Presario 7111LA, I always have had NVidia cards and compiled the driver my self. That experience was what drove me to the suggestion of get the driver form ATI and replace with it the default that is shipped with SuSE. Although your comment came after I had performed those steps do not think it was useless, because there were items I did not know before, such as that the failsafe entry in the boot menu loads the system using the xorg.conf.install, or the links to the new radeonhd drivers. However, although I did nor use the new radeonhd driver, my present comment confirm your suspicion of a buggy radeonhd in the final 11.2, and I think that the goal of this exchange was fulfilled. Why I can not tune my devices with xsetwacom and wacomcpl, or how configure my Wacon and Stylus, use it with Gimp, etc., are mere comments, illustrative if you like of my workaround, of the state of my quest that are outside of this bug. I thank you. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c3 --- Comment #3 from Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> 2009-12-17 05:52:30 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=333065) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=333065) Wacompl thoes not gave any device to config. Just stating about the "work-on-the-fly". -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c4 --- Comment #4 from Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> 2009-12-17 05:54:41 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=333066) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=333066) I was not able to compile a package of the last ATI driver. So, I took it from the ATI repository. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c5 --- Comment #5 from Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> 2009-12-17 05:56:25 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=333067) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=333067) After installing the ATI driver from the repositoy, Sax2 ran. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c6 --- Comment #6 from Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> 2009-12-17 05:58:44 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=333068) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=333068) my current xorg.conf. But the configuration provided through Sax2 treat my devices as mere mice (I think). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c7 --- Comment #7 from Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> 2009-12-17 06:06:03 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=333069) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=333069) The devices as Gimp takes them. It is different to what expected according http://en.opensuse.org/Wacom_USB_tablet_howto#GIMP_Configuration and http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/install-guide-wacom-drawing-tablets-with-gimp-..., so I do not know whether did I some wrong or it was supposed that I did something that I have done yet, or it is a problem with the HAL because my devices are not properly set and Wacomcp is empty. Just confirm me what it is so I look in the right place, please, because concerning the bug I know we are done. Thank you. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c8 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |publio.escipion.el.africano | |@gmail.com --- Comment #8 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-12-17 09:46:21 UTC --- The idea was to investigate the issues with radeonhd driver. Meanwhile you switched to fglrx driver. Does this mean you're no longer interesting in getting this fixed? Then we need to close this one as WONTFIX. About the TabletPC configuration: There's an 'HP Pavilion tx2500 series (USB)' entry in the Tablet configuration of SaX2. Make sure you enable Pen/Eraser/Touch here (doesn't seem to be the default). If this works I can't say. We don't have a single TabletPC for testing available. I'm afraid we can't help here. And it would be required to handle it seperately anyway. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c9 Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|publio.escipion.el.africano | |@gmail.com | --- Comment #9 from Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> 2009-12-18 20:52:25 UTC --- I did not meant that, sorry. And, of course, although I was able to work due to the installation of the fglrx driver, I want to fix this: I said that because I wrongly thought that it was enough for you and further steps were out of my ability or knowledge, and, I hope to understand, I switch to the fglrx driver because I had (have) to work, and I could not wait just seated your suggestion. In fact, many of the issues I have had with SuSE since 7.0 I handle by myself or I surrender myself trying, one of the reason have been that I had not have Internet always. But I can tell you now that the suggested xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd-1.3.0_20091124_6387ab4-4.1.x86_64.rpm seems to work fine, but quite slowly (3D acceleration). I installed through YaST2, and edited with vim the xorg.conf, where I changed the driver line, shifting from fglrx to radeonhd (although the fglrx isn't uninstalled I think what I have done is enough to deactivated it; isn't it?), then telinit 3 to telinit 5, and here I am. I thank you for the TabletPC suggestion: I think I am learning fast to deal with it, even not working the wacomcpl. However, I have noticed that my editing of the input devices isn't taken care for the Xserver, because it uses different names for my devices from that i gave them. So, I am afraid that there is some other configuration file where the new parameter are stored. As it seems to be a dynamical one, it should be temporal. My question: if that is true, where the running configuration are stored? Because this behavior is new for me and, although I state that the running driver is the new radeonhd for its manifestations, I am not able to know it for certainty. Well, it has been a nice chat, so, let me finish it thank you and let me know whether you need on need not anything else. P. D.: I am going to travel far from Internet, computers, cell phones, etc. between December 22, 2009 and January 5th, 2010. So, it will be a delay in my future answers, but do not think again, please, that it is a lack of interest. Thank you. RHN. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c10 Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #10 from Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@novell.com> 2009-12-18 22:04:06 UTC --- DRI (=3D support) is disabled in this driver release for RS780 since it isn't stable yet. For testing radeonhd driver it's better to uninstall fglrx driver since this driver replaces some system libraries like libGL. You might even need to reboot after uninstall fglrx driver. I'm not sure what you mean with "input devices isn't taken care for the Xserver", but as said before this is a complete different topic and not related to the support of Radeon RS780. I think I can close this now as FIXED. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564953#c11 --- Comment #11 from Rainer Hurtado Navarro <publio.escipion.el.africano@gmail.com> 2010-01-29 02:32:51 UTC --- Hello. Everything was fine till I updated the original kernel 2.6.31.5 to 2.6.31.8-0.1-desktop through Online Update. The radeonhd from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Drivers:/Video/openSUSE_11.2/... hangs the computer as referred above. So, I do not know what to do: 1) radeonhd hangs my computer: we are back to the begining; 2) fbdev provides me a low resolution (it is really uncomfortable in a 12.1" screen) and does not let me rotate the screen; 3) ATI's fglrx 8.661 from ATI's repository is not updated to 2.6.31.8-0.1-desktop, and its equivalent Catalyst 9.10 from ATI's web doesn't compile for 2.6.31.8-0.1-desktop. Catalyst 9.11 & 9.12 do compile for 2.6.31.8-0.1-desktop, but at the time I need to rotate my screen the module fails as you might see at http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sb19rCnmVKU/S0-2R0bTvpI/AAAAAAAAAMk/LgGoQzOXTTo/s1... (I am aware that this issue is not of your concern: it is just a comment to illustrate my profound frustration), and, although I have reported this issue to AMD/ATI and the fglrx Community, it seems they do not care about. Thus, I have to chose between downgrading my kernel and left unfix some issues, although gain the option to have a working radeonhd/fglrx-8.661, or upgrade the kernel to get solved some issues but be restricted to use a Tablet PC as a common PC or risk to hang my SO, or lost the video. I'll downgrade for now. Suggest me what to do next concerning this bug (do I have to re-open this or open a new one?) so I could help you as much as I could to solve this issue. I am very sorry for bother you again, and I give you my thanks for your help in advance: Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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