[Bug 661435] New: There are Far Too Many Ways to Set the PC's System Clock with a Default KDE Desktop
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661435 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661435#c0 Summary: There are Far Too Many Ways to Set the PC's System Clock with a Default KDE Desktop Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.3 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.3 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: KDE4 Applications AssignedTo: kde-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: scott@aphofis.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- Created an attachment (id=406264) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=406264) Self Titled Image User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 SUSE/3.6.13-0.2.1 Firefox/3.6.13 There are far too many ways to set the Date/Time...Clock from too many configurable UI's on a Default KDE Installation. We should only have to configure our public NTP Server once in Yast. Again we see that we need to integrate far better into a default KDE Desktop with Yast Currently we have Yast>NTP/Server to set the system time. Next we have Date and Time and Country Settings in KDE's 'System Settings' – Here we must set and apply the Country before setting the Time Server. Both of these actions require escalation of authority to root 'Enter Root Password' which is presented out of focus, but this out of focus window is standard across just about everywhere in KDE. If the user takes too long to establish both country location and selection of time server we have the error attached! Next we have the Digital Clock Widget as part of a standard KDE Installation. Here we must also set Country and time again under Adjust Date and Time – which also calls for the root password and is out of focus Next we have 'Digital Clock Settings' from the same Widget. Here the 'Time Zone' must be entered and the default drop down needs to be changed to the Country Time Zone you have chosen, other wise you still get GMT. I understand the integration of Yast to a KDE Desktop is difficult, and on this occasion I think the 'Systems Settings' should be removed from both Configure Desktop and The default Time Widgets. Just about every popup window that requests the Root Password is out of focus – Do you want me to open a Bug just on that topic alone? This itself is not a very eloquent solution. There are vast numbers of duplication within Yast and 'System Settings' My gut tells me that long term we either get rid of Yast and put it in KDE's System Settings or the other way around – That subject is all yours to solve – I'm not going anywhere near that problem – Its all yours :-) Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. As Above 2. 3. Actual Results: Far too many ways to set the system clock and some are in conflict with each other Expected Results: It would be nice to set the NTP Server in Yast and never again after that -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661435 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661435#c1 Christian Trippe <ctrippe@opensuse.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |ctrippe@opensuse.org Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #1 from Christian Trippe <ctrippe@opensuse.org> 2012-01-29 20:02:33 UTC --- For me setting the clock during installation works. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661435 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661435#c2 Scott Couston <scott@aphofis.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |CLOSED CC| |scott@aphofis.com Resolution|WORKSFORME |WONTFIX --- Comment #2 from Scott Couston <scott@aphofis.com> 2012-02-03 01:30:10 UTC --- I am not saying that setting the clock during install is a problem. This bug is all about having 5 different ways to set or change the clock in a KDE4 workspace...We have had the never ending issue of duplication of control methods being Yast and KDE Control Module...As of 11.4 there is less duplication, however until be totally assimilate KDE control Module into Yast or get rid of Yast and use only KDE Control Module there will always be duplication of most all control application and/or some that need doing in Yast and others need doing in KDE Control Module. If you trying to teach anyone how to administer a KDE4 workspace, its almost impossible to justify why we set some things in Yast and other must be done in KDE Control Module. As a usability issue we fail dismally in this area...With setting the time, 'just how do you want me to answer a new persons question of "Why are there 5 different ways of setting the time" How do you answer that to set up all Display functions we use KDE Control Module and yet the sound or printer is done in Yast? I'll leave this as closed as wontfix, because we can fix the duplication until either we combing KDE Control into Yast or get rid of Yast and use only KDE Control..Its cool for me to leave this as closed for future reference if nothing else :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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