[Bug 726019] New: Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c0 Summary: Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 12.1 Version: RC 1 Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: SuSE Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: roland@logikalsolutions.com QAContact: jsrain@suse.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/7.0.1 Create multiple EXT3 and EXT4 partitions for things like "books" "save_sets" etc. Perform installation taking defaults. None of these partitions have mount points defined when installation is complete. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.see above 2. 3. Actual Results: have to manually mount as root/administrator. Disk utility listed in Applications will not allow partitions to be mounted or added to FSTAB. You have to use the much more dangerous Partition Creator in YAST. Expected Results: Partitions should be automatically mounted with mount points that match their labels. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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24 Oct 24 Oct

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New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c zj jia changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |zjjia@suse.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |aschnell@suse.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c1 Thomas Fehr changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |fehr@suse.com Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #1 from Thomas Fehr 2011-10-24 15:41:50 UTC --- In the same dialog one creates a partition one can also assign a mount point for it. So when someone does not assign a mount point, the corresponding device does not get mounted. Especially people having different installations on the same system may want the data separated from each other. Also use of label by different people is not consistent. So I would assume lots of people would not like this approach very much. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c2 Roland Hughes changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #2 from Roland Hughes 2011-10-24 17:29:21 UTC --- 1) Please read the ACTUAL bug. These partitions existed from a prior version of OpenSuSE and were not created during this installation. 2) There are many messages on the OpenSuSE forums bitching about this very bug. 3) Those people who use labels are quite consistent about it. 4) When the installation procedure runs, it should ASK about a mount point for each partition it identifies and let the user decide, not ASS-U-ME. 5) Your argument is really inconsistent with reality when you auto-mount WINDOWS/C and WINDOWS/D for any NTFS or FAT-32 partitions found, especially since most of us don't have a single Windows installation. If anything they should be DOS/C and DOS/D or simply DRIVE_C and DRIVE_D. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c3 Thomas Fehr changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #3 from Thomas Fehr 2011-10-24 17:32:23 UTC --- I still do not see a bug here. If people want new features implemented they should do a feature request. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c4 Roland Hughes changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #4 from Roland Hughes 2011-10-24 17:34:36 UTC --- This is NOT A NEW FEATURE. Prior releases used to auto-mount all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c5 Thomas Fehr changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |roland@logikalsolutions.com --- Comment #5 from Thomas Fehr 2011-10-24 17:50:51 UTC --- Maybe we talk about completely different programs. I am responsible for YaST2 partitioner. I did not change anything in this regard since last release. Maybe previously the automounting you mention was done by tools integrated into Gnome or KDE desktop. I wondered what Program was meant with "Disk utility listed in Applications" in first Report anyway. Could you please check which program is really executed by clicking this "Disk utility". I do not use KDE or Gnome Desktop so have not much idea what these do and without program name I can hardly reassign to appropriate maintainer. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c6 Roland Hughes changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED InfoProvider|roland@logikalsolutions.com | --- Comment #6 from Roland Hughes 2011-10-24 19:02:03 UTC --- The problem is in the INSTALLATION. Previously it identified and mounted ALL existing partitions. Now it does not. I have no method of identifying the "Disk Utility". Under Gnome 12.1 RC 1, you click on Activities. Then you click on applications. In the second row is a disk with a wrench icon which says "disk utility". The About box for it says Disk Utility 3.0.2 with a Red Hat copyright. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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25 Oct 25 Oct

10:27

New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c7 Thomas Fehr changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Installation |GNOME AssignedTo|aschnell@suse.com |bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo. | |novell.com QAContact|jsrain@suse.com |qa@suse.de --- Comment #7 from Thomas Fehr 2011-10-25 10:27:37 UTC --- So it seems to be changed behavior of gnome automounter. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10:53

New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c8 --- Comment #8 from Roland Hughes 2011-10-25 10:53:50 UTC --- I would still finger the installation procedure. OpenSuSE is one of the last distros still using FSTAB. The installation process does not create entries for these partitions in FSTAB. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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10:59

New subject: [Bug 726019] Existing partitions not auto-mounted, installation doesn't even ask about it

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c9 --- Comment #9 from Thomas Fehr 2011-10-25 10:59:39 UTC --- These changes regarding fstab handling are clearly a feature request. Since you mentioned in comment#4 it worked in previous releases, it should not be fstab related since to my knowledge we never created an fstab with entries for all existing partitions. So if the behavior you want was present in former releases there seems to be way of getting what you want without adding all partitions to fstab. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c10 --- Comment #10 from Roland Hughes 2011-10-25 11:38:39 UTC --- The "work around" is to _manually_ use the yast2 partitioner to define mount points which then get written to FSTAB. <code> roland@linux-ec83:/> cat /etc/fstab /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD15EARS-00Z5B1_WD-WMAVU2237186-part8 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD15EARS-00Z5B1_WD-WMAVU2237186-part9 / ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD15EARS-00Z5B1_WD-WMAVU2237186-part10 /home ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD15EARS-00Z5B1_WD-WMAVU2237186-part1 /windows/C vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD15EARS-00Z5B1_WD-WMAVU2237186-part5 /windows/D vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD15EARS-00Z5B1_WD-WMAVU2237186-part6 /books ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD15EARS-00Z5B1_WD-WMAVU2237186-part7 /db_data ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD10EACS-00ZJB0_WD-WCASJ1139194-part5 /save_sets ext3 defaults 1 2 </code> -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c11 --- Comment #11 from Roland Hughes 2011-10-25 11:39:32 UTC --- BTW, it's not just me. http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/4607... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c12 --- Comment #12 from Thomas Fehr 2011-10-25 11:59:26 UTC --- ad comment#10: But then the claim in comment#4 it has been working in previous releases is wrong. We never automatically added all partitions to /etc/fstab and also did not query users for every existing partitions during installation. And of course one can manually add all partition one wants to fstab with yast2 partitioner which makes the fielsystems to be mounted automatically at system startup. ad comment#11: I cannot conclude from the discussion that people want automatically added every partition to /etc/fstab. Please understand that such fundamental changes cannot be done without some coordination (and these coordination is done with feature requests). If I would implement it the way you want just to get rid of this bug and next release someone else complains that the previous method was superior. What to do then? Undo the change? Then you will complain again. So with some things it is simply not possible to make everyone happy. So I still think this should be handled as a feature request, not a bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c13 --- Comment #13 from Roland Hughes 2011-10-25 12:24:19 UTC --- All I know is that I have NEVER manually added mount points for my /books and /db_data partitions in ALL of the years I've used OpenSuSE. This install, for whatever reason, most likely some poorly thought out change request without query for user input, has changed that behavior. I'm not the only one to notice this. It is NOT a feature request. Whatever took out the mounting WAS a feature request which obviously wasn't voted on by anyone or we wouldn't have this bug. This is definitely a bug. It is most likely the result of an "undocumented feature" added by a developer who thought they "knew better" about how install should work. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c14 --- Comment #14 from Roland Hughes 2011-10-25 12:27:47 UTC --- As I've documented before, since someone thought they "knew better than anyone else" and took out the mount point creation...besides having them taken off the project.... the INSTALL process should add a step where it identifies each partition and asks the user if they want to automatically mount that partition. If so, allow them to provide the mount point. This satisfies all. The installation can then, by default, continue down this misguided and unenlightened path of ignoring all other partitions, then the little self contained step can ask about them all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c15 Vincent Untz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |roland@logikalsolutions.com --- Comment #15 from Vincent Untz 2011-11-08 09:49:27 UTC --- Roland: just wondering, if you open nautilus, are the partitions visible in the shortcut sidebar (even if not mounted), or are they hidden? When they are mounted, are they visible there? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c16 --- Comment #16 from Roland Hughes 2011-11-08 13:14:28 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=460906) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=460906) Dolphin image of drives -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c17 Roland Hughes changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED InfoProvider|roland@logikalsolutions.com | --- Comment #17 from Roland Hughes 2011-11-08 13:15:44 UTC --- (In reply to comment #15)

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Roland: just wondering, if you open nautilus, are the partitions visible in the shortcut sidebar (even if not mounted), or are they hidden? When they are mounted, are they visible there?

I don't know about Nautilus, working with KDE RC2 now. I can tell you that if you add mount points during the partitioning phase, some partitions show up twice. See attached image. The 20.0G is ROOT and the 696 drive is /HOME -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c18 Vincent Untz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|GNOME |KDE4 Workspace AssignedTo|bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo. |kde-maintainers@suse.de |novell.com | --- Comment #18 from Vincent Untz 2011-11-08 13:25:17 UTC --- I have no idea why this got moved to GNOME if the desktop being used is KDE... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c19 --- Comment #19 from Roland Hughes 2011-11-08 13:31:46 UTC --- Because it originally happened and was reported on Gnome with RC1. I am now testing RC2 and using KDE because Gnome is simply unusable. The problem is neither Gnome nor KDE. The problem is the installation process and what it chooses to create FSTAB entries for on its own and the seemingly random logic behind it. Everybody has tried to glad-hand this off to someone else. You have to read the original post and just skim the diss-information posts people used to glad-hand the problem off. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726019#c20 Christian Trippe changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED CC| |ctrippe@opensuse.org Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #20 from Christian Trippe 2014-08-01 08:10:12 UTC --- Sorry that this bug did not get any attention. However openSUSE 12.1 is no longer supported. Therefore I am closing this report. If the bug is reproducable with a later version please reopen. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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