https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653#c1 Kay Sievers <kasievers@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kasievers@novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com --- Comment #1 from Kay Sievers <kasievers@novell.com> 2011-03-10 18:48:39 UTC --- Please don't assign me such bugs. I don't make any decisions what to include in the distro. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653#c zj jia <zjjia@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |zjjia@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |werner@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653#c4 --- Comment #4 from Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de> 2011-03-15 11:05:27 UTC --- The mingetty manpage says nothing of UTF-8 support. So this feature is practically not advertised. Also see http://bugs.debian.org/mingetty while at it. And the most important reason I could think of why nobody except openSUSE uses mingetty would be what is actually stated in its manpage: "mingetty does not support serial lines". Heck, even openSUSE uses agetty in sysvinit for ttyS0 because of that. And, I suppose, few people like to carry around more than one getty implementation. What other features does agetty lack? A clear comparative table would be of use. What is the state of the mingetty project at SF, is it even authoritative, or does openSUSE run sort a fork? (Because mingetty.sf release seems to not receive much attention.) All these questions would come to my mind if I were a bystander having to decide on agetty vs mingetty. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653#c6 Kay Sievers <kasievers@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW CC| |kasievers@novell.com InfoProvider|kasievers@novell.com | --- Comment #6 from Kay Sievers <kasievers@novell.com> 2011-03-15 12:34:24 UTC --- It is decided between Red Hat, Debian, and SUSE maintainers of systemd to standardize completely on agetty, and add possibly missing features from mingetty yo agetty. It's also on the util-linux TODO list. Would be great if you can let the util-linux guys know the list of missing *useful* features. Some things in the list above really don't look like they fit that criteria. If you really need exotic mingetty features, which are not accepted in agetty, you can always create an optional package that overwrites the default agetty setup with /dev/null links and places mingetty there. But none of that should be in the default setup, in the systemd package, or differ from upstream, instead upstream agetty should be extended if needed. Major goal of systemd is to unify across the distributions, and get rid of needless differences, and get things maintained centrally and not in the distro packages. Just in case you want to change anything here now, please direct that to upstream agetty or systemd and get it changed for all distros and not the SUSE package of systemd. SUSE will stay as close as possible to upsream. Hope that clarifies. Thanks! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678653#c8 --- Comment #8 from Kay Sievers <kasievers@novell.com> 2011-03-16 18:07:20 UTC --- Just for the topic of playing games: I dropped the SUSE mingetty because the 6 gettys took 20% of the bootime, crawling /proc over and over. Things like that are seriously not *features* we are looking for. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.