[Bug 279967] New: suse packaging conventions should be imported into the wiki
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 Summary: suse packaging conventions should be imported into the wiki Product: openSUSE.org Version: unspecified Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Documentation AssignedTo: fs@novell.com ReportedBy: dmueller@novell.com QAContact: adrian@novell.com suse packaging conventions should be imported into the wiki -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 dmueller@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |adrian@novell.com AssignedTo|fs@novell.com |anicka@novell.com ------- Comment #1 from dmueller@novell.com 2007-06-04 06:41 MST ------- I've been told that there are two documents, one external one (the conventions?) and one internal one. whichever the external one is, imho it should be in the opensuse wiki. CC'ing adrian because legal status is unclear (at least to me). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 ------- Comment #2 from anicka@novell.com 2007-06-04 08:08 MST ------- We have a non-public Packager's manual, which contains public SUSE Package Conventions. Anyway, IMHO it just does not make sense to import SPC into the wiki - SPC are maintained inside SUSE and it is not a good idea to have world-editable wiki version of SPC different from the SUSE one. IMHO it is enough to link SPC from the wiki. Maybe we could make the docbook source public and accept patches from the community. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 anicka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |dmueller@novell.com ------- Comment #3 from anicka@novell.com 2007-06-06 06:05 MST ------- Anyway, what exactly do you mean by "importing suse packaging conventions into the wiki"? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 dmueller@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|dmueller@novell.com | ------- Comment #4 from dmueller@novell.com 2007-06-06 07:41 MST ------- it is my understanding that the manual at http://w3d.suse.de/Dev/Components/Packages/PackMan/packagers_manual.html/vie... is/was split into a public/nonpublic part, and the public part is called "suse packaging conventions". This part is currently on novellforge on some ftp server, and instead of being there (in an outdated version), the current version should be added to the wiki and maintained there. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 ------- Comment #5 from dmueller@novell.com 2007-06-06 07:42 MST ------- There might be some misunderstanding involved here or you might not be the right person for that, I don't know. I have yet to find out who is responsible :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 anicka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |anicka@novell.com AssignedTo|anicka@novell.com |mkudlvasr@novell.com ------- Comment #6 from anicka@novell.com 2007-06-06 08:15 MST ------- Current version is on novellforge, linked to wiki here: http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation#Developer_Documentation Right now, I am responsible for maintaining SPC. But if we will maintain SPC in wiki, I will probably not do it anymore as it will not make any sense :-) If you want to switch SPC to wiki, please discuss technical issues with Martin Kudlvasr. (Reassigning to him.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 dmueller@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |aj@novell.com ------- Comment #7 from dmueller@novell.com 2007-06-06 08:43 MST ------- well, its probably not my call to decide this. AJ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |aj@novell.com Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|aj@novell.com | ------- Comment #8 from aj@novell.com 2007-06-08 02:09 MST ------- What advantage does maintaining in the wiki bring us? We could export it to the wiki - but I consider maintaining it via subversion the better solution. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 ------- Comment #9 from anicka@novell.com 2007-06-08 02:16 MST ------- AJ: Personally, I am not really sure what approach is better, there are pros and cons for both the solutions. This is what we discussed at our last packagers meeting: Pros: - less work for us - more open model of the document creation Cons: - synchronization with our internal version - possible conflicts in the future when we might adopt "common" conventions with other distros But maybe it is worth trying, community projects usually develop faster than projects with one busy maintainer. Maybe Vladimir will have something more to say... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 cschum@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |cschum@novell.com ------- Comment #10 from cschum@novell.com 2007-06-08 02:50 MST ------- Having the packaging documentation in the Wiki lowers the barrier for contributions, so in the end we are likely to get better documentation than with a more closed model. It of course doesn't mean that the docs will be arbitrarily changed. I think it's very well possible to keep this under some control. But this can be done by communication and doesn't need to be done by restrictive permissions. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 ------- Comment #11 from aj@novell.com 2007-06-08 03:35 MST ------- Anicka, I'm fine with putting it in the wiki if you're fine as well. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 ------- Comment #14 from aj@novell.com 2007-06-08 04:00 MST ------- This is an approval to move on! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279967 ------- Comment #15 from dmueller@novell.com 2007-06-08 05:27 MST ------- thanks, if you need any help, message me.. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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