https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1175457 https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1175457#c18 --- Comment #18 from Petr Mikulík ---

Your assesment on provided groups is false. So your quick check reports it as 'there are groups' yet they are mostly useless.

Useless and false? What about actually checking the numbers: All packages: zgrep 'Group[ ]*:[ ]*' /var/lib/pin/ARCHIVES.gz | wc -l => 38571 Group unspecified packages: zgrep 'Group[ ]*:[ ]*' /var/lib/pin/ARCHIVES.gz | grep Unspecified | wc -l => 2161 Unspecified non some libs: zgrep 'Group[ ]*:[ ]*' /var/lib/pin/ARCHIVES.gz | grep Unspecified | egrep -iv '(python|devel|myspell|lib)' | wc -l => 742 Thus, there are 742 out of 38571. Looking manually to their list, I have found only these "user-friendly" packages without a group: fontforge, asciidoc, pandoc, rstudio You will probably find more. How many? Those other 738 looks like libraries, desktop support files etc. And this discussion has stated in the beginning that the Group classification is a great help for users and user-used software. Hm, I wonder why a user needs to persuade Yast/OpenSUSE maintainers how good the current system is. My wish is to keep it running until anything better is available.

Doing anything outside YaST doesn't make sense I guess.

I wish I don't need to be root for having a GUI to browse OpenSUSE packages. Running /usr/sbin/yast2 sw_single without root privileges terminates with an error message. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.