https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331#c2 Johannes Meixner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Printing |Xfce Platform|Other |All Found By|--- |Community User AssignedTo|jsmeix@suse.com |bnc-team-xfce@forge.provo.n | |ovell.com QAContact|jsmeix@suse.com |qa-bugs@suse.de Summary|Desktop ask for root |XFCE desktop ask for root |password to cancel user |password to cancel user |print jobs. |print jobs. OS/Version|Other |openSUSE 12.3 --- Comment #2 from Johannes Meixner 2013-06-28 11:09:27 CEST --- I already wrote in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827196#c1 The Bugzilla component Printing is primarily meant for the base printing system (CUPS and printer driver packages) but not for user application programs that provide printing related functionality, compare its matching Printing development project in the openSUSE build service https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=Printing I guess it does not depend on the platform but happens on "all" platforms. I cannot help here because I don't know what the XFCE desktop does when cancelling print jobs. FYI: In general a normal user "foo" should be not allowed by default to cancel print jobs of user "bar". By default a normal usuer should be only allowed to cancel his own print jobs. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331#c4 Carlos Robinson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|GNOME |Printing Platform|All |Other Found By|Community User |--- OS/Version|openSUSE 12.3 |Other --- Comment #4 from Carlos Robinson 2013-06-28 11:07:55 UTC --- Should we change the component to xfce or to gnome? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331#c Carlos Robinson changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Found By|--- |Community User -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331#c7 --- Comment #7 from Carlos Robinson 2013-06-30 08:33:24 UTC --- Clarification: I'm not using any KDE thing. I can Cancel as user jobs I have initiated with the same user, using the cups web interface, or via "lprm JOBNUM" as user. However, XFCE asks for ROOT's password to do the same (presumably using Gnome print dialog). I don't know if once or twice, once is bad enough. Ie, the desktop is not honouring cups settings. Even if the design decision is not to honour them, root password is excessive. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331#c9 --- Comment #9 from Carlos Robinson 2013-07-09 18:56:12 UTC --- (In reply to comment #8)

FYI: Regarding different behaviour when CUPS is used versus when Gnome print stuff is used, have a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749451#c8 and the subsequent comments therein.

Please note that Bugzilla is about "Adding a new printer", whereas this one is about a user cancelling his own job. This can be done by the user using CUPS CLI or HTTP, but not via gnome/xfce print interface. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331#c11 Johannes Meixner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jsmeix@suse.com Summary|XFCE desktop ask for root |Gnome printing policies are |password to cancel user |not in compliance with CUPS |print jobs. |policies --- Comment #11 from Johannes Meixner 2013-07-10 10:35:31 CEST --- My comment#8 was meant to point out that there are different sets of policies used here, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749451#c9 This means: When you do something using CUPS directly (e.g. CUPS command line tools or the CUPS web interface or using applictions that work in full compliance with CUPS), then CUPS' own policies (the so called "CUPS Operation Policies") are used as described in http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-1.5/policies.html In contrast when you use Gnome printing tools, then the Gnome policies are used "which are defined the policykit way" and the "PolicyKit settings are controlled by polkit-default-privs (and set_polkit_default_privs, that applies the defined policies)", see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749451#c9 and https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749451#c12 As a result you can cancel your own print jobs when using CUPS directly but not when using Gnome printing tools. In the end this issue here is exactly an example of what https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749451#c8 and the subsequent comments there describe in general. Accordingly I change the subject of this issue here from "XFCE desktop ask for root password to cancel user print jobs" to "Gnome printing policies are not in compliance with CUPS policies" Acording to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749451#c9 the difference in policies is intentional because Gnome wants "to offer a consistent way to define policies on the machine". Therefore - from my current point of view - it seems the bug here is no bug but intentional so that it could be closed as "invalid". But I am not involved in Gnome so that I leave it for the Gnome people to actually decide what to do here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331#c Johannes Meixner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Gnome printing policies are |Gnome printing policies ask |not in compliance with CUPS |for root password to cancel |policies |desktop user's own print | |jobs -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=827331#c14 --- Comment #14 from Carlos Robinson 2013-07-10 12:18:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #13)

Thanks for your clarification! I agree.

Welcome and thanks, too.

I even think that the default Gnome printing policies should match the default CUPS Operation Policies.

Me too... but I have no say in the matter. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.