https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c2 --- Comment #2 from David Rankin 2008-05-17 02:03:07 MST --- Created an attachment (id=216160) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=216160) root Xorg.0.log -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c4 --- Comment #4 from David Rankin 2008-05-17 02:10:32 MST --- (The only response from the list I obtained is what pointed my in the kdelibs3 direction. It follows:) <quote> I met the same trouble in openSUSE 10.3 i386 environment on my laptop. The problem was triggered by updating "kdelibs3*" packages to version 3.5.7-72.9 or later and I think it is related to the issue CVE-2008-1671: start_kdeinit in KDE 3.5.5 through 3.5.9, when installed setuid root, allows local users to cause a denial of service and possibly execute arbitrary code via "user-influenceable input" (probably command-line arguments) that cause start_kdeinit to send SIGUSR1 signals to other processes. http://www.suse.de/~meissner/cve/CVE-2008-1671.html I downgraded "kdelibs3*" packages to version 3.5.7-72.6, which I found in the "Updates" repository, and the problem isn't reproduced. On the other hand, I have other desktops, on which I installed openSUSE 10.3 i386 and x86_64, and in those environments, the problem isn't reproduced by updating "kdelibs3*" packages to version 3.5.7-72.9 though. So, the problem was provided not only by updating "kdelibs3*" packages, but also by other conditions, which is not specified yet. </quote> See: Re: [opensuse] kdebase3-3.5.7-87.5 Update on x86-64 -- Normal user Login Freeze, root - OK List: opensuse@opensuse.org Date: 5/10/2008 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c6 --- Comment #6 from David Rankin 2008-05-18 00:50:12 MST --- Dirk, Below is this ~/.xsession-errors. There isn't a ~/.X.err and top was uneventful with nothing stuck and just the normal Xorg and ksplash momentarily appearing. I do think you are narrowing it down quite a bit. the xsession-error looks promising. I have also included the dump of 'ps axf' showing the number of kdeinits running. I used killall kdeinit to clean that up. Same symptoms though. Somewhere kde is hanging. After the killall kdeinit, an kwrited style dialog appeared over the splash screen and told me that the session could not be initialized. I closed it and then hit ctrl+alt+backspace to get back to kdm. Here is the ~/.xsession-errors: [01:41 nirvana/home/david] # cat .xsession-errors /etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started. /etc/X11/xim: user environment variable LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_US.UTF-8 ... There is no default input method for the current locale. <note> # this is all that was there before this last start attempt everything below came from this last attempt to start kde </note> startkde: Starting up... kdeinit: Shutting down running client. /opt/kde3/bin/startkde: line 360: 29438 Terminated LD_BIND_NOW=true start_kdeinit_wrapper --new-startup +kcminit_startup startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. Warning: connect() failed: : Connection refused kbuildsycoca running... kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed klauncher: Exiting on signal 15 DCOP aborting (delayed) call from 'kded' to 'klauncher' ksmserver: Fatal IO error: client killed startkde: Shutting down... kded: Fatal IO error: client killed DCOP aborting (delayed) call from 'anonymous-29481' to 'kded' Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory Error: Can't contact kdeinit! DCOP Cleaning up dead connections. I will attach the 'ps axf' info after I post this. Thanks and let me know what else you want. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c8 --- Comment #8 from David Rankin 2008-05-22 22:22:48 MST --- Created an attachment (id=217667) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=217667) New root and user Xorg.0.log files New Xorg.0.log files showing precise difference between successful start of KDE by root and point of failure when KDE start attempted by user. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c10 --- Comment #10 from David Rankin 2008-05-22 23:42:29 MST --- Dirk, The new ~/.xsession-errors for the last KDE start attempt by user is: 23:23 nirvana~> cat .xsession-errors /etc/X11/xim: Checking whether an input method should be started. /etc/X11/xim: user environment variable LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sourcing /etc/sysconfig/language to get the value of INPUT_METHOD INPUT_METHOD is not set or empty (no user selected input method). Trying to start a default input method for the locale en_US.UTF-8 ... There is no default input method for the current locale. startkde: Starting up... Let me know what else I can send. I would really like to help resolve this before I must downgrade to 3.5.7-72.6. If you would like me to run additional tests, just let me know what you want. One additional thought. Is there any way that /etc/X11/qt_plugins_3.3rc installed on 5/10 as part of the updates could be causing the problem?. I'm just looking for files in X11, etc. modified on the date of the update that broke KDE to try and see if something looks suspicious. Here, the /etc/X11/qt_plugins_3.3rc appears to contain a number of library references in both /opt and /usr that, if not right, look like they could cause things to go haywire. A shot in the dark, but who knows. Thanks for you time and attention. I have faith we will find the culprit. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c12 --- Comment #12 from David Rankin 2008-05-23 12:00:51 MDT --- Dirk, A follow up search shows the file to be /opt/kde3/bin/kpac_dhcp_helper -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User danielstefanmader@web.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c14 Daniel Mader changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |danielstefanmader@web.de --- Comment #14 from Daniel Mader 2008-06-02 12:36:37 MDT --- Hi, I have the same problem on my laptop (x86), too, and also exactly since that very update to kdelibs. I wasn't too concerned, though, since the 11.0 was getting beta status and I moved over to that version. Since colleagues now have the same problem, and since an update to 11.0 is still some way to go, I would like to resolve the issue temporarily for them! What is the easiest way to downgrade to the versions before the update? A proper zypper command would deeply appreciated! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User danielstefanmader@web.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c16 Daniel Mader changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium --- Comment #16 from Daniel Mader 2008-06-03 06:35:24 MDT --- Thanks for your advice, David! Just let me add that this is not specific to x86_64! The two machines in know are both laptops with Pentium III M and Pentium M (aka Centrino). They have different graphics chipsets (ancient Radeon and i855GM), so it should not be related to any graphics driver or Xorg. What really bothers me: I have upgrade on of the machines to the very latest stable KDE packages supplied by openSUSE: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.3/ No change! I did not expect it, but checked nevertheless: Updating Xorg to version 7.3 also did not help: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XOrg/openSUSE_10.3/ I am currently downloading 11.0 RC1 in order to check with the supplied KDE packages there! I have tested KDE4 only, so far, and I suddenly have a very very bad anticipation... I'd like to have this a higher priority so I set it to P3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User danielstefanmader@web.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c18 --- Comment #18 from Daniel Mader 2008-06-03 14:31:56 MDT --- Thank you David, forcing the changes back to the state before definitely helped. FYI, here's the installation log with the error message David was refering to: dampfnudel:~ # ll kdelibs3* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16145267 Jan 17 02:21 kdelibs3-3.5.7-72.6.i586.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 187318 Jan 17 02:21 kdelibs3-arts-3.5.7-72.6.i586.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 204032 Jan 17 02:21 kdelibs3-default-style-3.5.7-72.6.i586.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 922341 Jan 17 02:21 kdelibs3-doc-3.5.7-72.6.i586.rpm dampfnudel:~ # rpm -Uhv --force kdelibs3-* Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:kdelibs3-default-style ########################################### [ 25%] 2:kdelibs3 ########################################### [ 50%] Starting SuSEconfig, the SuSE Configuration Tool... Running module permissions only Reading /etc/sysconfig and updating the system... Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.permissions... Checking permissions and ownerships - using the permissions files /etc/permissions /etc/permissions.easy /etc/permissions.d/mail-server /etc/permissions.d/postfix /etc/permissions.d/texlive /etc/permissions.local setting /opt/kde3/bin/kpac_dhcp_helper to root:root 4755. (wrong permissions 0755) Finished. 3:kdelibs3-arts ########################################### [ 75%] 4:kdelibs3-doc ########################################### [100%] -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User danielstefanmader@web.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c20 --- Comment #20 from Daniel Mader 2008-06-23 02:18:44 MDT --- David, I really get the impression that this bug has close to zero priority now that 11.0 is out... I have migrated the respective systems to that version and fortunately that bug is gone. I am still using the same $HOME. Still, I would feel more comfortable to have seen more effort in solving this bug. It makes a system completely unusable, and since it was introduced with an online update, this will make my heart jump whenever I see some KDE patch appear now and in the future... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748 User drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391748#c22 David Rankin changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com | --- Comment #22 from David Rankin 2008-06-23 22:32:01 MDT --- Yes, I am running one of Jan's kernels. 2.6.23.17-ccj64-default to be exact. Do you want me to downgrade or is just confirming the kernel enough? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.