[Bug 780621] New: YaST Installer continues to ignore low-vision accessibility
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c0 Summary: YaST Installer continues to ignore low-vision accessibility Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 12.2 Version: Final Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: YaST2 AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: suseROCKS@bryen.com QAContact: jsrain@suse.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0 YaST uses a bright white background for the dialogue windows during installation. This is a big no-no for low-vision users as well as for people with aging eyes. Typically, many low-vision users are extremely sensitive to white on screen. We tend to set our desktops to have a black background with white font. As my vision continues to deteriorate, I am having more difficulty with each openSUSE release to be able to see the screen and select my options. While I know there is a text-based install, even the default for YaST-ncurses is not a low-vision friendly color and requires you to edit a file to change the default color options. (I've never tried this during actual install, only during normal installed usage of openSUSE.) That is simply not an optimal solution for low-vision users, especially new users who may not have experience in how to configure in the background. Please devise a plan to provide alternative visual options for users. Perhaps a toggle-button that automatically inverts the colors of the install dialogues or alternative graphics screen that provides a darker background. This is not a protest statement, but a factual one... with my continued declining vision, if this is not fixed by 12.3, it is quite possible that I will no longer be able to install and use openSUSE. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c kk zhang <kkzhang@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kkzhang@suse.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |yast2-maintainers@suse.de |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c1 Gabriele Mohr <gs@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED CC| |gs@suse.com AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |gs@suse.com --- Comment #1 from Gabriele Mohr <gs@suse.com> 2012-09-18 11:33:27 UTC --- For 'qt' there (theoretically) is the possibility to switch to high contrast mode by pressing Shift F4. This doesn't work any longer, the bug is tracked in bnc #768112 - yast2-qt high contrast mode broken. I will check how the mode can be set for ncurses during installation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c2 --- Comment #2 from Gabriele Mohr <gs@suse.com> 2012-09-19 11:59:40 UTC --- For ncurses the color mode used during installation can be set on the kernel command line. The available themes for Y2NCURSES_COLOR_THEME are specified in /etc/sysconfig/yast2, e.g. set 'textmode=1 Y2NCURSES_COLOR_THEME="inverted"'. I will add this info to the YaST portal on openSUSE wiki. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c3 --- Comment #3 from Bryen Yunashko <suseROCKS@bryen.com> 2012-09-19 12:27:25 UTC --- Shift+F4 is a good option that I'll have to watch for when it is working again. Typing into a command line is not intuitive and requires user to be confident enough to go in and edit files. Additionally, we'd have to go back and forth into the file until we find the mode that works best for us. I would prefer a toggle function within ncurses-yast instead that allows us to toggle through the differnet color options until we find one satisfactory for ourselves. Additionally, a user would have to know how to call up a text editor in the first place. Which editor is available during installation process? What they may already be familiar with may not be available in installation process yet. VI? Emacs? Pico? For the record, my ncurses-yast has been set for a while now to rxvt. But even though it is described as using a black background, it is actually using a grey background, so the conversion isn't optimal. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c4 --- Comment #4 from Bryen Yunashko <suseROCKS@bryen.com> 2012-09-20 03:19:58 UTC --- I ust did a quick check of installation in virtualbox by switching to text mode with ncurses-yast visible. Then I did Alt+F1 to switch to terminal and saw there is not yet have /etc/sysconfig/yast so it would appear there is no way to configure color settings during installation of openSUSE. As a side note, when I'm in graphical mode, if I expand my virtualbox window, the GUI installer expands with it to keep fit in window. But ncurses-yast does not do that. It remains a small view even with window expanded. Is this a bug? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c5 --- Comment #5 from Gabriele Mohr <gs@suse.com> 2012-09-20 07:20:39 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4)
I ust did a quick check of installation in virtualbox by switching to text mode with ncurses-yast visible. Then I did Alt+F1 to switch to terminal and saw there is not yet have /etc/sysconfig/yast so it would appear there is no way to configure color settings during installation of openSUSE. The color mode can be set as boot option 'Y2NCURSES_COLOR_THEME' on the kernel command line at the very begin of the installation (available values are: xterm, linux, rxvt, mono, inverted, highcontrast), for an example see screenshot in attachment.
As a side note, when I'm in graphical mode, if I expand my virtualbox window, the GUI installer expands with it to keep fit in window. But ncurses-yast does not do that. It remains a small view even with window expanded. Is this a bug? I cannot reproduce this with the VirtualBox on my system, the text mode window is quite as big as the graphical.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c6 --- Comment #6 from Gabriele Mohr <gs@suse.com> 2012-09-20 07:32:49 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=506385) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=506385) kernel command line on installation screen -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c7 Gabriele Mohr <gs@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|gs@suse.com |snwint@suse.com --- Comment #7 from Gabriele Mohr <gs@suse.com> 2012-09-20 11:00:23 UTC --- An easier way to select the color mode for ncurses can be added at the installation screen. F3 already offers Textmode. This menu entry can be expanded by a sub menu which offers the available modes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c Gabriele Mohr <gs@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621#c Ihno Krumreich <ihno@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS/Version|Other |openSUSE 12.2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=780621 Imobach Gonzalez Sosa <igonzalezsosa@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |768112 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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