[Bug 1193250] New: Fully switch TW to DRM graphics drivers and disable fbdev drivers
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug ID: 1193250 Summary: Fully switch TW to DRM graphics drivers and disable fbdev drivers Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed Version: Current Hardware: Other OS: Other Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: X.Org Assignee: gfx-bugs@suse.de Reporter: tzimmermann@suse.com QA Contact: gfx-bugs@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- In TW, we mostly use fbdev vesafb and efifb drivers for early-boot display output and as fallback. This has a number of problems, such as * Most modern Wayland compositors don't support fbdev any longer. Even X' support is bolted-on. Generally, userspace support for fbdev is slowly fading. See bug 1187154. * Handover from fbdev to native DRM drivers is unreliable and can result in stuck systems during boot. See bug 1181913. Therefore, replace TW's fbdev drivers with simpledrm and maybe other DRM drivers. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Xorg got rudimentary support for simpledrm in 21.0. [1]
We have a better method for supporting platform devices, but what's there should work. With the current X server, we'd need additional hacks for other platform drivers, such as hyperv_drm.
Wayland compositors only support DRM interfaces and should work with simpledrm. I tested with recent Gnome.
[1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/commit/ b9218fadf3c09d83566549279d68886d8258f79c
I work on patches for X to make platform devices configurable via udev. See [1]. [1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:tdz:branches:X11:XOrg/xorg-x11-... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Xorg got rudimentary support for simpledrm in 21.0. [1]
We have a better method for supporting platform devices, but what's there should work. With the current X server, we'd need additional hacks for other platform drivers, such as hyperv_drm.
Wayland compositors only support DRM interfaces and should work with simpledrm. I tested with recent Gnome.
[1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/commit/ b9218fadf3c09d83566549279d68886d8258f79c
I work on patches for X to make platform devices configurable via udev. See [1].
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:tdz:branches:X11:XOrg/xorg-x11- server
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--- Comment #7 from Thomas Zimmermann
(In reply to Thomas Zimmermann from comment #5)
(In reply to Thomas Zimmermann from comment #2)
Xorg got rudimentary support for simpledrm in 21.0. [1]
We have a better method for supporting platform devices, but what's there should work. With the current X server, we'd need additional hacks for other platform drivers, such as hyperv_drm.
Wayland compositors only support DRM interfaces and should work with simpledrm. I tested with recent Gnome.
[1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/commit/ b9218fadf3c09d83566549279d68886d8258f79c
I work on patches for X to make platform devices configurable via udev. See [1].
[1] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:tdz:branches:X11:XOrg/xorg-x11- server
Merge request pending at https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/935464
Merged into https://build.opensuse.org/package/revisions/X11:XOrg/xorg-x11-server at rev 808. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Pushed to factory/TW
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I think we can close this now.
It's my tracker bug for all kinds of related updates. Can we leave it open? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Thomas Zimmermann
Having /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the installer system blocks Xorg from reading other configuratoion files. The X server therefore fails to detect HyperV devices (and possibly others), which are configured via /run/X11/xorg.conf.d/
This was supposed to go into bug 1193614. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #15 from Thomas Zimmermann
After the introduction of this patch that checks /run for config files, i noticed that xorg ignored all my config files residing in /etc.
I may be wrong but looking at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/blob/master/hw/xfree86/parser/ scan.c#L798 it seems to me that xorg uses only the first directory that has any files in it.
So, because it finds /run/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-card.conf file generated by udev, it ignores everything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (and i guess also all the distro-supplied files in /usr/share).
My impression is further stengthened by the fact that if i delete the file in /run, then my configs are parsed correctly.
Is this a known - wanted behavior ?
Thank your for your time.
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--- Comment #16 from Georgios Toptsidis
@Georgios Could you copy all the snippets (apart from 50-device.conf) from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (if these exist) or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ (if the formers don't exist) to /run/X11/xorg.conf.d where 10-card.conf is? Does this work then?
Yes if i copy everything to /run then it works correctly. I will include the logs at the other bug. Thank you for replying. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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* Handover from fbdev to native DRM drivers is unreliable and can result in stuck systems during boot. See bug 1181913.
Is this what's happening in bug 1193640 and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/4762 ? I am "not authorized to access" bug 1181913. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Tested with i686-pae kernel https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/tiwai:/simpledrm/standard/ i686/kernel-pae-5.15.11-5.1.g730a488.i686.rpm as described in bug 1190409 comment 4.
Currently it seems this change would break X on 32-bit x86 hardware which does not support SSE2 instruction set like e.g. Athlon-XP or Pentium-III and everything below.
I'm adding a reference to your bug report. Although it's not directly related to the simpledrm changes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #22 from Thomas Zimmermann
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* Handover from fbdev to native DRM drivers is unreliable and can result in stuck systems during boot. See bug 1181913.
Is this what's happening in bug 1193640 and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/4762 ? I am "not authorized to access" bug 1181913.
It's unrelated. Bug 1181913 was a software bug wrt Plymouth. Your's seem to be a HW issue. (?) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1194384, which changed state. Bug 1194384 Summary: [simpledrm][UEFI] Black screen until KMS engages, then system freezes, when KMS is defective and plymouth=0 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194384 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1194373, which changed state. Bug 1194373 Summary: TDM fails with simpledrm http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194373 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|IN_PROGRESS |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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This doesn't happen with 5.15.12 (newest kernel installed prior to 5.16.5).
When 5.16.5 proceeds after the pause, it's in gargantuan text BIOS 80x25 mode
so long before KMS finally engages the display's native mode, or the mode
specified by video=, that only about 90 lines (1.5 screenfuls on 1400x900
180x56) remain to be displayed after the KMS reset before the shell prompt
appears. Adding edd=off to kernel cmdline is unhelpful. I tried checking other
modes available via <ENTER>, selecting 133 before proceeding, which produced
some seriously ugly text, though space saving compared to 80x25.
Later I put add_drivers+=" radeon " in /etc/dracut.conf.d/ and rebuilt initrd
for the running 5.16.5 kernel, which sent initrd size from 15081K to 17438K, a
hefty increase if 2357K, just to modestly cut the length of time running in
80x25 mode.
Why is simpledrm preventing use of traditional vesafb modes in the time before
KMS engages? Is something else needed in the initrd or on kernel cmdline to
enjoy traditional vesafb modes like vga=0x317 & vga=794 prior to KMS
engagement? I don't get how simpledrm improves anything. :(
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When I boot directly to graphical.target, nothing shows up until the TDM greeter.
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To multi-user.target, it boots so fast that nothing shows up on either screen until a whole screen full lights up with a login prompt at the bottom. I can see near black change to black about halfway through the few seconds between Grub menu and login prompt. When I boot directly to graphical.target, nothing shows up until the TDM greeter. # cat /proc/cmdline ...mitigations=auto video=1440x900@60 vga=791 3
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# inxi -SGMy
Device-1: Intel RocketLake-S GT1 [UHD Graphics 730] driver: i915 v: kernel Display: server: X.org 1.21.1.3 driver: loaded: modesetting
This part is not interesting, it's after the accelerated driver takes over
# cat /proc/cmdline ...vga=791 video=1440x900 3
[ 0.352172] simple-framebuffer simple-framebuffer.0: [drm] fb0: simpledrmdrmfb frame buffer device
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http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1193472, which changed state. Bug 1193472 Summary: Enable simpledrm on x86-64 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193472 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|IN_PROGRESS |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1193539, which changed state. Bug 1193539 Summary: X server broken (showing only garbage) with simpledrm framebuffer http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193539 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|IN_PROGRESS |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1194373, which changed state. Bug 1194373 Summary: TDM fails with simpledrm http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194373 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|IN_PROGRESS |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1193474, which changed state. Bug 1193474 Summary: Enable simpledrm on i686 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193474 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1193475, which changed state. Bug 1193475 Summary: Enable simpledrm on aarch64/arm http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193475 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1201833, which changed state. Bug 1201833 Summary: Enable simpledrm on riscv64 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201833 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1193250 Bug 1193250 depends on bug 1208662, which changed state. Bug 1208662 Summary: uvesafb: Disable fbdev driver http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1208662 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|IN_PROGRESS |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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