[Bug 310001] New: LTSP 150 THin Client hardware and otheres have issues with kiwi netboot and KWLTSP
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 Summary: LTSP 150 THin Client hardware and otheres have issues with kiwi netboot and KWLTSP Product: openSUSE.org Version: unspecified Platform: Other OS/Version: SuSE Other Status: NEW Severity: Blocker Priority: P5 - None Component: System Imaging AssignedTo: ms@novell.com ReportedBy: jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us QAContact: adrian@novell.com Found By: Community of Practice The machines stall jusat before "loading KIWI...." shows on other clients See attached RED Line indicates break point -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c1 Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|ms@novell.com |jigish.gohil@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> 2007-09-13 02:44:56 MST --- assigned to maintainer of kiwi-ltsp -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c2 --- Comment #2 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2007-09-13 04:03:59 MST --- Created an attachment (id=163808) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=163808) Screencap of the location it hangs Red mark shows the last thing on screen, the screencap is of course from the working boot that is why you can see the "Loading KIWI..." -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c3 Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jigish.gohil@gmail.com AssignedTo|jigish.gohil@gmail.com |ms@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2007-09-13 04:06:36 MST --- The bug is for you Schaefi :) The stock KIWI netboot initrd fails immediately after first stage, just before KIWI's init script takes over. LTSP image comes much much later. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c4 Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |REMIND --- Comment #4 from Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> 2007-09-13 04:14:19 MST --- but that's a kernel issue then. As comment #2 shows the init stage even didn't start which means kiwi has not taken over any task Try to check with a kernel guy Thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c5 --- Comment #5 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2007-09-13 07:38:26 MST --- Not sure where exactly the issue is, however kernel from 10.2 and 10.3 installation media used for network boot/installation works perfectly, just the jump from kernel to kiwi fails using kiwi netboot image. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c6 --- Comment #6 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2007-09-13 08:28:18 MST --- @James Please try this and boot up the client: cp /<change this to beta3 installation media>/boot/i386/loader/linux /srv/tftpboot/boot/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c7 --- Comment #7 from James Tremblay <jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us> 2007-09-13 14:09:40 MST --- all attempts to combine working (10.3 media) linux or initrd and kiwi linux\initrd cause the same two issues. linux from media works but starts installation TUI . Linux from KIWI causes a failure noted in comment #2 . attempts to insert "echo" commands in kiwi's suse-linuxrc at the end of varios sections result in "init: cannot execute /sbin/mingetty" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c8 --- Comment #8 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2007-09-14 06:29:08 MST --- Here are the tests we conducted: media linux + media initrd = installation TUI kiwi linux + media initrd = installation TUI media linux + kiwi initrd = hang immediately after kernel finishes as in screencap kiwi linux + kiwi initrd = Same as above We tried putting echo right at the top of netboot/suse-linuxrc which caused the error mentioned in comment #7 James, could you try out 10.3 live CD? wget -c http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.3-Beta3plus/iso/cd/open... It is a kiwi live, check if that one is able to boot up. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User jigish.gohil@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c9 Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|REMIND | --- Comment #9 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2008-01-21 05:35:51 MST --- Reopening this as the issue is still the same even with the reduced initrd size(10M). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User jigish.gohil@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c10 --- Comment #10 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2008-01-21 05:36:37 MST --- *** Bug 354984 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=354984 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User ms@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c11 Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Blocker |Normal Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us Summary|LTSP 150 THin Client hardware and otheres have |kiwi: LTSP 150 THin Clients and others have |issues with kiwi netboot and KWLTSP |netboot problems --- Comment #11 from Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> 2008-01-21 07:55:45 MST --- if possible add systemException "break" "shell" at the beginning of linuxrc and tell me how far it goes. I mean do you get a prompt there ? can you type anything in there ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User jigish.gohil@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c12 --- Comment #12 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2008-01-21 08:00:12 MST --- It doesnt even get till: #====================================== # Beautify Startup #-------------------------------------- clear echo "Loading KIWI Boot-System..." echo "---------------------------" As you can see from the screenshot, it just hangs at the red line. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User jigish.gohil@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c13 Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED Info Provider|jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us | --- Comment #13 from Jigish Gohil <jigish.gohil@gmail.com> 2008-01-21 08:00:58 MST --- removed needinfo -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c14 --- Comment #14 from James Tremblay <jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us> 2008-01-23 16:02:46 MST --- I have been told to add that b4, cyberorg and I did a bunch of that one day and none of them changed anything. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c16 James Tremblay <jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |glunardi@novell.com --- Comment #16 from James Tremblay <jt@newmarket.k12.nh.us> 2008-02-07 05:29:33 MST --- Gentleman, It has been a months since I discovered this weakness in the kiwi boot kernel. In my last iteration of this bug ( I was asked to resubmit) I provided a lengthy list of thin client hardware from manufacturers all using the TK-3350 as a base. A quick google search on tk-3350 will back me up. At least 6 of which were suppliers in Europe. Here is one http://www.liscon.com/ VIA provides this motherboard technology to many of it's partners take a look, http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/embedded/partner_products.jsp?applications=2&categorys=16&company=86 I have been told that opensuse ordered one from disklessworkstations.com the US provider and that it did not come, I am begging you please either purchase one of these and do some testing or let me ship one to you. This products base is huge due to its 199.00 sticker price long before HP and Wyse got there. I understand that there may be some resistance to financing education based solutions like LTSP due to the low return on investment, however I can assure you that educators are more than willing to purchase SLED at the prices listed for education and I myself would be a huge proponent of a server package based on SLED that included thin client technology. I am ready to buy and so are many others. Ubuntu may have the "free" version of this technology cornered but a lack of a phone number to call is still a drawback to many of my peers adoption of Linux , A problem Novell doesn't have! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User ms@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c17 --- Comment #17 from Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> 2008-02-07 05:54:03 MST --- I have a tk3370 now on my desk and can start to test it. This bug here is also a matter of time and resources. I'm sorry but at the moment there is also suse 11.0 as well as SLETC and SLEPOS products which requires more assistance We weren't able to get a tk3350 which was sold out in any shop Novell/SUSE buy hardware from. The last attempt to buy from another seller failed poorly. I hope any device from the tk33XX series is sufficient to reproduce the problem -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User ms@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c18 Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|nat@novell.com | Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #18 from Marcus Schaefer <ms@novell.com> 2008-02-08 11:38:45 MST --- the tk3370 I have here works fine for me. It has an IDE adapter but I didn't attach any local storage device. I have tested to run the device in two levels a) with / from network b) with image installed into RAM both methods has worked for me. I had problem with the via driver which randomly paints trash on the screen but that's not a big problem compared to what this bug tells me :) So all in all I can't reproduce the mentioned problems installed system was: suse-11.0 alpha2 kernel: kernel-default-2.6.24_rc7_git5-2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001 User cyberorg@opensuse.org added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=310001#c19 Jigish Gohil <cyberorg@opensuse.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|WORKSFORME |FIXED --- Comment #19 from Jigish Gohil <cyberorg@opensuse.org> 2008-09-11 11:13:22 MDT --- The fix to this issue committed today, solution was use glibc i586 in boot images. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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