https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073#c zj jia changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |zjjia@suse.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |tonyj@suse.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073#c2 andreas bittner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|abittner@stud.fh-heilbronn. | |de | --- Comment #2 from andreas bittner 2011-10-24 18:08:59 UTC --- hey there, sorry for the delay. what do you mean about that kexec stuff. that was only a brief description of the steps i did. the end result of this bug is as described, this box never boots beyond that error message. even with poweroff, cold boot. with coldboot there isnt any kexec involved is it? i know kexec only from past opensuse versions right after installing clean opensuse versions at the very end when the system wrote bootloader and final configs to the destination system (grub etc.) it would try to kexec-boot the installed new system/opensuse-kernel instead of doing a real reset/reboot/warmboot or whatever its called properly. if kexec didnt succeed, the user would then ctrl+alt+del, or reset or repower the system and the freshly installed opensuse would then boot up via normal standard means, whatever that means. so to my understanding kexec was a means to load and run a new/updated kernel right from inside the old running system without doing all the warm/cold boot-up stuff such as firmware, bios, POST etc. so anyways, as i wrote in this bug, this installed system doesnt boot up at all. it didnt boot up right after install (after the upgrade from 11.4 to 12.1) nor after the many attempts i didt be it from powered down mode, from warm reboot, cold-reboot (reset button), with usb keyboard/mice, with addtl ps2-keyboard, with ps2-keyboard only. whatever i do all it does is hang as described, and a ps2 keyboard can escape the bootscreen away and then it shows those two lines: doing fastboot creating device nodes with udev. nothing else ever happens. so i guess it has zero to do with kexec, or am i wrong? as i see today, factory has the more recent 3.1rc9 kernel as of very recently, is there any way to update this non-booting system to the most recent factory packages (rpm) in any way? maybe this hang is fixed in the 3.1rc9 kernel package? regards. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073#c4 --- Comment #4 from andreas bittner 2011-10-27 15:58:21 UTC --- i strongly call for a metabug on this old generic issue of how to deal with a new product regarding a direct upgrade from a clean previous version. i think opensuse needs to make sure that a new release of opensuse must at least be upgradable and usable in some basic way coming directly from the direct previous predecessor version. i have quite often come across crazy bugs that made it impossible to upgrade a freshly set up test system with the version prior to the new release and then using the released iso image or via zypper and the other standard means that exist (see also most annoying bugs). opensuse should make sure that a clean 11.4 to the latest (11.4)+1 should work as flawlessly as possible via iso/zypper upgrade methods. if this cannot be ensured, the release should be pushed further to the future and this fundamental feature=upgrade should me enforced. its really very bothering and annoying that at so many times a very simple system using a standard clean install cannot be normally upgraded to the successor version. there are just too many bugs that have crossed my way regarding this matter in the past, and this bug seems very much like yet another bug of this kind. regards. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073#c6 --- Comment #6 from andreas bittner 2011-10-27 17:02:50 UTC --- wow, this situation is becoming worse the more i try to find out whats wrong. so i did a completely clean install (all partitions delete/recreate) directly with 12.1/rc1/x64 default install. the very same effect at the end of the install process.... it says its going to try kexec instead of doing real boot. after that box of text with the ****************** around it, there is actually another line telling that nscd or so is starting or shutting down or so. the disk i/o activity is actually hinting that kexec (and also during normal boots, non-failsafe normal modes) is actually trying or doing something, but nothing normal ever happens. so i waited for 10minutes at least, then tried some ctrl+alt+del on the ps2 and usb keyboards many times, waited more, nothing happens. tried to use the atx-powerbutton, sometimes the disk i/o led and activity is doing something, flickering, clicking on the disks. nothing happens. so reset button as last resort. then i try to go for failsafe-mode, thats the only mode that actually does something. as this attempt was a completely clean install of 12.1/rc1/x64, the system boots somewhat, and then suddenly crashes/exits into textmode and the textmode yast2 installer comes up and says the last attempt of install failed or so and it tries to continue this way without graphics and in some sort of fallback mode. it takes really long until it manages to activate a standard pcie/onboard realtek gigabit network device, then it does some suseconfig or whats that script called parts, with fonts and settings and so on, and then surprisingly manages to start right there back into graphics mode (still being in failsafe-boot) and presents a kde/kdm logon screen but no username/icon(?) is given, so i manually enter my testuser and password, and it brings me here, where firefox 7.0.1 works, but the green opensuse welcome screen icon doesnt do anything, but errors and complains about missing stuff on disk. so anyways, even a clean install of this 12.1/rc1/x64 is rather unusable, and this result cannot be called a normal install, and the previous attempts did not qualify for the word "upgrade". i can attach these 12.1/rc1/x64 cleaninstall logs from this system if anyone cares, and/or do some more clean-11.4/x64-to-12.1/rc1/x64 upgrade this time, maybe that gives yet again different results, but i highly doubt it. regards. p.s. things that seem odd in contrast to previous opensuse versions is, that some of the logs and during failsafe-boot (of the beta1-to-rc1 tries) and half-finished logs hint that all kinds of drivers or kernel components actually try to upload or use various nonexisting or failing firmware parts, even my realtek pcie nic has a line where some kernel part tries to upload new firmware to it, and also the ati pcie radeon hd 6970 graphics card has lines about nonexisting cayman firmware files and whatever. this sound really weird....... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723073#c Tony Jones changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.