[Bug 329630] New: GNOME menu structure
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 Summary: GNOME menu structure Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: RC 1 Platform: x86 OS/Version: openSUSE 10.3 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: GNOME AssignedTo: bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: infernux@web.de QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: Beta-Customer First off, I was amazed by the polishment that went into openSUSE 10.3 so far. But yet, I have a thing that keeps me from using openSUSE as my main distribution: I don't like using the new start menu "slab", while I can see that it is of use for some people, it is not that great for me (I use a wide range of software, more that would fit into "favorites" and the applications window feels "slow" for my needs). Anyway, there is the old menu applet, which I would love to use. However, the menu displayed here is not the default GNOME layout, but a custom layout with a lot of submenus. The same layout is also used when I add custom application launchers to the panel. The problem with the submenus is that I rearely see more than one entry in one submenu. So, for example, in the Graphics menu, I have a submenu "Image Editing" which only holds Gimp. In all, I would have 6 launchers in Graphics, now I have 5 submenus, with each holding one (one holding two) launchers. To make things worse, the submenus use KDE icons, mostly, thus feeling really out of place. It would be great if the default GNOME layout (no submenus) would be used. This would also be more consistant with the SLAB menu, as it would show the same categories as the application window. Perhaps keep the submenus around, but the default should be off. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c1 --- Comment #1 from Michael Monreal <infernux@web.de> 2007-09-29 04:39:23 MST --- Created an attachment (id=175615) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=175615) Screenshot This shows the menu structure I currently see here... I suppose most people don't have 100+ apps in one category. If you have any normal amount (10-20 apps per category) you don't need subcategories because you can scan a list faster than opening every subcategory when looking for one application -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c2 Nikolay Paskov <neiskam@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |neiskam@gmail.com Severity|Normal |Enhancement --- Comment #2 from Nikolay Paskov <neiskam@gmail.com> 2007-09-29 04:46:13 MST --- It sounds more like a suggestion than a bug that's why I'm changing the severity to Enhancement. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c3 --- Comment #3 from Michael Monreal <infernux@web.de> 2007-09-29 04:56:10 MST --- Well, surely it is a suggestion but I tried to make my (use)-case clear and I really think this is not too uncommon. Right now, openSUSE is unusable for me... I have other problems, like the package management/update tools, but I would be fine using zypper on the command line. But for a menu I use so often it just don't work for me having to navigate into those pointless submenus. So for me this is a bug, namely the bug that keeps me from using openSUSE as my primary distribution, which is a sad thing. I don't know how this menu structure comes to be, but if there is a way to work around it (deleting some menu definition xml?) please tell me. I really think the default should be changed but for now I would be glad to use such a (simple, I don't want to recompile or anything) workaround. (Thanks for the quick replay btw... that's really cool!) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c4 Mark Gordon <mtgordon@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mtgordon@novell.com --- Comment #4 from Mark Gordon <mtgordon@novell.com> 2007-10-01 11:19:57 MST --- Have you tried alacarte? The menus are user-editable now. There's even an Edit Menu action if you right-click the menu. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c5 --- Comment #5 from Michael Monreal <infernux@web.de> 2007-10-01 12:31:38 MST --- I installed openSUSE from the RC1 iso and alacarte was not installed by default. I installed it by hand and it really doesn't solve my problems. I would have to move all launchers out of their sub-categories by hand and then disable the subcategories... Another thing I didn't mention yet: the "System" part of the normal GNOME menu applet only shows YaST/Help/Logout. Where is Preferences? Where is Administration? Well, Administration is YaST I guess, but why does it not show a menu with the YaST launchers? Also, there is NO WAY to get to the desktop preferences using this menu :( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c6 Magnus Boman <mboman@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mboman@novell.com --- Comment #6 from Magnus Boman <mboman@novell.com> 2007-11-15 02:09:32 MST --- Michael, Just thought I mention it here just in case you don't know... With regards to Slab, You can right click on an application in the App browser and select "Add To Favorites". Likewise, you can right click on an app in Slab and say Remove
From Favorites.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| |gnome-wrong-out-of-the-box, gnome-usability -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c7 Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |vuntz@novell.com --- Comment #7 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-02-18 10:42:51 MST --- Pretty much agree with Michael. The menubar is hardly usable by default. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c8 Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ilya_@inbox.com --- Comment #8 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-15 02:40:52 MST --- Ubuntu's Gnome menu structure can be an example of what I expect. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c9 Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium --- Comment #9 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-15 02:43:52 MST --- Ubuntu's Gnome menu structure can be an example of what I expect. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User captain.magnus@opensuse.org added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c10 Magnus Boman <captain.magnus@opensuse.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |captain.magnus@opensuse.org Status|ASSIGNED |NEW Priority|P3 - Medium |P5 - None --- Comment #10 from Magnus Boman <captain.magnus@opensuse.org> 2008-05-15 02:49:50 MST --- Ilya, Please don't play around with assigned, priority etc. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c11 --- Comment #11 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-15 02:55:38 MST --- Very sorry. This bug has been attacking my nerves for a very long time, so I thought it has a higher priority and it's not new :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c12 --- Comment #12 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-05-15 03:02:51 MST --- (In reply to comment #9 from Ilya Stavisskiy)
Ubuntu's Gnome menu structure can be an example of what I expect.
Ubuntu is using upstream layout, afaik. That's the current plan, the difficulty being that it's hard to know if doing this will break something else :/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 Magnus Boman <captain.magnus@opensuse.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com |vuntz@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c13 --- Comment #13 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-15 03:18:57 MST --- (In reply to comment #12 from Vincent Untz)
Ubuntu is using upstream layout, afaik. That's the current plan, the difficulty being that it's hard to know if doing this will break something else :/
The current Gnome menu layout seems to have some dependencies with KDE menu layout. So, for example: - I don't need KDE at all - I need upstream layout for "Programs" at least. How can I change the layout in this way? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c14 --- Comment #14 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-05-17 06:59:45 MST --- I've submitted a package which will help a lot. To use the upstream menu structure, you can simply set XDG_MENU_PREFIX to gnome- (which is the right way to do this kind of thing according to the menu spec). I need to check a few things before we can set the environment variable by default, though. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c15 --- Comment #15 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-18 17:45:12 MST --- (In reply to comment #14 from Vincent Untz)
I've submitted a package which will help a lot. Thanx a lot! And what about calling libssui-tool instead of gnome's default session/power manager (don't know how to call it correctly) from the "System" menu? As it's done in SLAB. I think, libssui-tool is nice and much more comfortable to use.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c16 --- Comment #16 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-05-18 18:39:39 MST --- (In reply to comment #15 from Ilya Stavisskiy)
And what about calling libssui-tool instead of gnome's default session/power manager (don't know how to call it correctly) from the "System" menu? As it's done in SLAB. I think, libssui-tool is nice and much more comfortable to use.
Heh, that should belong to another bug since it's completely unrelated to this bug. But I'd be pretty reluctant to do this, especially since this will get fixed upstream during 2.23/2.24. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c17 --- Comment #17 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-18 19:02:32 MST --- (In reply to comment #16 from Vincent Untz)
But I'd be pretty reluctant to do this, especially since this will get fixed upstream during 2.23/2.24.
OK, I understand. But i can't figure out how the variable setting works :( I can set it, I can "env" it. But nothing is changing... help, plz. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c18 --- Comment #18 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-05-19 04:50:06 MST --- (In reply to comment #17 from Ilya Stavisskiy)
OK, I understand. But i can't figure out how the variable setting works :( I can set it, I can "env" it. But nothing is changing... help, plz.
You mean XDG_MENU_PREFIX? It needs to be set before the panel starts. Also, you need to have the latest gnome-menus, which is probably not available in factory yet. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c19 --- Comment #19 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-19 05:23:38 MST --- (In reply to comment #18 from Vincent Untz)
It needs to be set before the panel starts. So, how can I set it as default for my 10.3? need to have the latest gnome-menus Can I simply compile it, the gnome-menus package only?
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c20 --- Comment #20 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-05-19 06:05:59 MST --- (In reply to comment #19 from Ilya Stavisskiy)
(In reply to comment #18 from Vincent Untz)
It needs to be set before the panel starts. So, how can I set it as default for my 10.3?
Hmm, I'm not sure the current gnome-menus package can be compiled for 10.3, you'll probably need to try in the build service. Then, to set XDG_MENU_PREFIX, I guess the best thing is to have a .xinit or xsession file (although you can also modify the files in /etc/x11/xdm) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c21 --- Comment #21 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-19 21:13:46 MST --- (In reply to comment #20 from Vincent Untz)
you'll probably need to try in the build service. I've tried to link the factory 2.22.1 package to my own build account and build it for 10.3...
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c22 --- Comment #22 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-05-20 13:32:35 MST ---
you'll probably need to try in the build service. I've tried to link the factory 2.22.1 package to my own build account and build it for 10.3... "No package 'gio-2.0' found"
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|GNOME |GNOME Product|openSUSE 10.3 |openSUSE 11.0 Version|RC 1 |Factory -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User michael.monreal@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c23 Michael Monreal <michael.monreal@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |michael.monreal@gmail.com --- Comment #23 from Michael Monreal <michael.monreal@gmail.com> 2008-06-27 14:13:37 MDT --- I'm getting ready to install openSUSE 11.0 now. I wonder if the work Vincent mentioned made it into the 11.0 release? Can someone confirm? If I can get the upstream layout using XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome that would be great, if it was default, even better. Anyone tried this yet? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c24 --- Comment #24 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-06-27 15:26:40 MDT --- (In reply to comment #23 from Michael Monreal)
I'm getting ready to install openSUSE 11.0 now. I wonder if the work Vincent mentioned made it into the 11.0 release? Can someone confirm? If I can get the upstream layout using XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome that would be great, if it was default, even better. Anyone tried this yet?
It's possible to set XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome, but it's not the default. When using this, you'll notice that we have way too many applications in the menus :/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User michael.monreal@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c25 --- Comment #25 from Michael Monreal <michael.monreal@gmail.com> 2008-06-28 04:58:18 MDT --- (In reply to comment #24 from Vincent Untz)
It's possible to set XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome, but it's not the default. When using this, you'll notice that we have way too many applications in the menus :/
Thanks Vincent! It's not perfect yet but it's certainly a huge improvement for me. For the record, this is what I use ATM: xinitrc --- export XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome- source .xinitrc.template --- The problems I see now are: A) as you noted, there are too many launchers. Many are shown in multiple menus. This should be easy to fix I think. B) many launchers have sub-ideal names. The gedit launcher for example shows "gedit" which is not a great idea IMHO. Why was this changed from the default "Text Editor"? If there are problems with (for example) KDE apps also being called "Text Editor", at least the name should be "GEdit Text Editor". The problem with this is that the SLAB menu displays "Name GenericName" IIRC. What about changing the menubar applet to do something similar? What do you think Vincent? I would be happy to help fixing .desktop files for openSUSE 11.1. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c26 --- Comment #26 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-06-28 07:29:06 MDT --- The issue with A is that what we want for GNOME might not be wanted for KDE. As for B, I have a plan there upstream. It's all about how we handle Name, GenericName, Comment in the desktop files. We probably don't need to fix the desktop files if the plan is accepted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User michael.monreal@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c27 --- Comment #27 from Michael Monreal <michael.monreal@gmail.com> 2008-06-28 07:39:43 MDT --- A) but having a launcher for Inkscape show up in both Graphics (where it belongs) and Office (uh?) can be considered a bug, right? This should not hurt KDE. B) Nice, I'm all for (finally!) upstream fixing this issue :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User michael.monreal@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c28 --- Comment #28 from Michael Monreal <michael.monreal@gmail.com> 2008-06-30 12:53:51 MDT --- Ah, one additional question: I'm unable to hide some of the launchers from System/Hardware, System/Look&Feel, System/Personal and System/System (eek). I tried both alacarte as well as manually creating override launchers with NoDisplay=true (in .local/share/applications), the launchers are still visible. Is this a bug in the XDG_ definition? Also, why was System/Administration changed to System/System? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c29 --- Comment #29 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-06-30 19:46:26 MDT --- THNX a lot, Vincent, for the greate improovment! But, I can't find ccsm icon and ...
Also, why was System/Administration changed to System/System?
Looks strange. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User ilya_@inbox.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c30 --- Comment #30 from Ilya Stavisskiy <ilya_@inbox.com> 2008-06-30 19:49:06 MDT --- sorry for my English %) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c31 Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|GNOME menu structure |Use GenericName in the menus whenever it makes | |sense --- Comment #31 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-07-25 06:41:30 MDT --- (In reply to comment #27 from Michael Monreal)
A) but having a launcher for Inkscape show up in both Graphics (where it belongs) and Office (uh?) can be considered a bug, right? This should not hurt KDE.
Err. KDE might actually want this. Don't ask me why. (In reply to comment #28 from Michael Monreal)
Ah, one additional question: I'm unable to hide some of the launchers from System/Hardware, System/Look&Feel, System/Personal and System/System (eek). I tried both alacarte as well as manually creating override launchers with NoDisplay=true (in .local/share/applications), the launchers are still visible. Is this a bug in the XDG_ definition?
Examples, please?
Also, why was System/Administration changed to System/System?
That's what we have. I'll propose the change on the mailing list. (In reply to comment #29 from Ilya Stavisskiy)
THNX a lot, Vincent, for the greate improovment!
But, I can't find ccsm icon and ...
Big in ccsm, I'd say :-) I have no idea where's it's hiding. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c32 Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|Enhancement |Normal Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium Summary|Use GenericName in the menus whenever it makes |Use XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome- by default |sense | --- Comment #32 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2008-07-25 06:56:18 MDT --- Bad me. Let's keep this bug on the XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome- topic. Everything else should go elsewhere (the GenericName vs Name stuff is upstream). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User michael.monreal@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c33 --- Comment #33 from Michael Monreal <michael.monreal@gmail.com> 2008-08-21 04:07:07 MDT --- Hmm maybe I'm getting this all wrong but shouldn't the installation of a gnome-menus-branding-upstream package change the menu system to the upstream look? Factory only has gnome-menus-branding-opensuse though. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630 User vuntz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=329630#c34 Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Use XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome- |Use XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome- |by default |by default and fix | |gnome-menus-branding | |packages --- Comment #34 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2009-01-22 15:44:49 MST --- Good idea Michael. In the opensuse gnome meeting today, we decided to first fix the branding packages: + branding-openSUSE would contain gnome-applications.menu which would just contain a link to applications.menu + branding-upstream would contain the upstream menu And then we can always set the environment variable. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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