https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User abittner@stud.fh-heilbronn.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c2 --- Comment #2 from andreas bittner 2008-10-07 10:18:44 MDT --- some additional info: mount, fdisk -l and fstab as being shown on the normally working 11.0 x86 on this test machine: /dev/sda6 on / type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5) /dev/sda8 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr) /dev/sda1 on /windows/C type fuseblk (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw) none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80060424192 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9733 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0001f7f1 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 2550 20482843+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 2551 2812 2104515 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 * 2813 9733 55592932+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda5 2813 2838 208813+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 2839 4144 10490413+ 83 Linux /dev/sda7 4145 5450 10490413+ 83 Linux /dev/sda8 5451 9733 34403166 83 Linux /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_SAMSUNG_SV0802N0652J1FW929822-part6 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_SAMSUNG_SV0802N0652J1FW929822-part8 /home ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_SAMSUNG_SV0802N0652J1FW929822-part2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_SAMSUNG_SV0802N0652J1FW929822-part1 /windows/C ntfs-3g users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 Andreas Jaeger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |snwint@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User aschnell@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c5 Arvin Schnell changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|aschnell@novell.com |kasievers@novell.com --- Comment #5 from Arvin Schnell 2008-10-08 04:02:35 MDT --- The switch from sda to hda is the cause of the problem. In /etc/fstab by-id is used (scsi-SATA_SAMSUNG_SV0802N0652J1FW929822) and the switch to hda causes these persistent names to not exist anymore. udev problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User kasievers@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c7 Kay Sievers changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kasievers@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |teheo@novell.com --- Comment #7 from Kay Sievers 2008-10-08 06:10:50 MDT --- Looks like the problem in: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=432994 Tejun, how can this happen? Why do we load IDE drivers? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User kasievers@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c9 Kay Sievers changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kasievers@novell.com |hare@novell.com --- Comment #9 from Kay Sievers 2008-10-08 16:11:44 MDT --- Ah, I see. Hannes, can we stop including all the old IDE drivers in initramfs? * Tue Sep 09 2008 hare@suse.de - Fix dhcp network detection (bnc#415438) - parse 'ip route' lines correctly (bnc#414191) - Always include all ATA and SCSI drivers We have no control, which driver is getting loaded first, if we include them all and don't blacklist. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User teheo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c11 Tejun Heo changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |agraf@novell.com --- Comment #11 from Tejun Heo 2008-10-08 16:21:09 MDT --- (cc'ing Alexander Graf) Kay, we do have control. Module loading order is determined by modules.order which is generated according to the linking order and can also be edited afterwards. There are two changes here. 1. Initial udev start behavior changed between SL110 and SL111. In SL111, the initial udev start now pulls in all the modules instead of the linuxrc. 2. initrds on installed system now contain all the ATA/SCSI drivers but it doesn't contain all the IDE ones by default, right, Alex? So, this is no the root cause of the problem. The IDE driver must have been included because it was used during installation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User teheo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c13 --- Comment #13 from Tejun Heo 2008-10-08 16:35:44 MDT --- I think the solution should be... 1. Check why the installation initrd behavior has changed. linuxrc now tries to load modules which are already loaded by udev. Something went wrong there. Either we stop linuxrc from trying to load drivers at all or stop udev from loading drivers before it. 2. Regarding IDE drivers, I don't mind either way. It doesn't really matter whether they're included in the initrd or not but we definitely need to put all libata ones before ide, which can be trivially achieved by moving ide/ below ata/ in drivers/Makefile. I'll do it. This change will also mask #1 but we still need to fix it. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User kasievers@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c15 --- Comment #15 from Kay Sievers 2008-10-08 16:41:02 MDT --- This is all caused by including IDE drivers unconditionally in initramfs, which we never did before. I guess nothing else has changed. What else are you looking for? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User teheo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c17 --- Comment #17 from Tejun Heo 2008-10-08 16:57:19 MDT --- Patch to prefer libata drivers over ide ones committed to HEAD. | - patches.drivers/libata-prefer-over-ide: libata: prefer libata | drivers over ide ones (bnc#433105). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User teheo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c19 --- Comment #19 from Tejun Heo 2008-10-08 17:05:02 MDT --- (In reply to comment #18 from Felix Miata)

(In reply to comment #10 from Tejun Heo)

...

Let's track this on bnc #432994.

That bug is not generally available. :-(

Heh.. forget about that. This one now contains much more info so I think we should stick with this one and close the other one as duplicate. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User hare@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c21 Hannes Reinecke changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #21 from Hannes Reinecke 2008-10-09 01:43:15 MDT --- Updated mkinitrd rpm submitted to autobuild. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User hare@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c23 --- Comment #23 from Hannes Reinecke 2008-10-09 02:13:37 MDT --- We're now copying all libata drivers only if the root device is in fact on a libata driver. Other installation continue as previously by just loading (ie adding) the required drivers. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 Tejun Heo changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|hare@novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com Status|REOPENED |NEW -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User abittner@stud.fh-heilbronn.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c26 --- Comment #26 from andreas bittner 2008-10-09 03:00:00 MDT --- is it possible to give a rough explanation on how to rebuild / patch a beta2 iso dvd installation media with this patch/resolution so that i could try and see how things are behaving? as this bug is pretty essential and i am testing upgrade scenarios i basically cant use beta2 for upgrades at all at the moment. i could be of more help if i would know where to get the patched bits and could try to use them. also: it would be nice to know the time frame / milestone estimate when this patch will be available. thanks & regards. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User abittner@stud.fh-heilbronn.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c28 --- Comment #28 from andreas bittner 2008-10-09 03:17:57 MDT --- i'm on x86 / 32bit. thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User teheo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c30 Tejun Heo changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|teheo@novell.com | --- Comment #30 from Tejun Heo 2008-10-13 01:38:48 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=245060) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=245060) sl110 install screenshot Ah... glad to hear the change was intentional. In fact, pata_hpt* drivers need such change as they need all the pata_hpt* drivers to be loaded instead of the first one which seems to fit. I thought linuxrc was trying to load modules because of the messages linuxrc printed out. I thought it was trying to load all the modules it printed out. It apparently only loads ide-generic, which BTW is the wrong thing to do as the proper driver is already bound to the device. Maybe linuxrc thinks that it needs to load ide-generic as it didn't load anything for the storage controller? Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User snwint@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c32 Steffen Winterfeldt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |teheo@novell.com --- Comment #32 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2008-10-13 06:37:48 MDT --- Hm, the lone ide controller entry looks a bit fishy to me. I do not see it with my vmware setup. Tejun, can you run 'hwinfo --storage --log=foo' on that machine and attach the log? Also, loading ide-generic _after_ the usual ata drivers should not make a difference, should it? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User teheo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c34 Tejun Heo changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|teheo@novell.com | --- Comment #34 from Tejun Heo 2008-10-14 19:45:34 MDT --- Oops, clearing NEEDINFO. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105 User abittner@stud.fh-heilbronn.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433105#c36 --- Comment #36 from andreas bittner 2008-10-27 10:47:14 MDT --- doing upgrade from clean 11.0 x86 dvd, to opensuse 11.1 beta3 seems to work now. i got other bugs after the upgrade though ;(. this bug might be settled now. regards. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.