https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859#c1 Johannes Meixner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jsmeix@suse.com AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |honyczek@centrum.cz Summary|Yast-printers - unnecessary |yast2-printer: |YCP format usage |printers.cs.po practicaly | |invalid translated URL and | |unnecessary "ycp-format" --- Comment #1 from Johannes Meixner 2013-02-05 09:34:10 CET --- First and foremost currently the URL https://cs.opensuse.org/SDB:Tisk_na_sd%C3%ADlen%C3%A9_tisk%C3%A1rn%C4%9B_%28... leads to nowhere (the default "empty" page when there is no such article in a Wiki) so that from my point of view it is curremtly plain wrong to translate URLs that lead the user to practically empty fallback pages. As long as there is no Czech translation page for http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_via_SMB_(Samba)_Share_or_Windows_Share you must keep this URL so that the users get information instead of meaningless Wiki fallback pages. Jan Papež I assign it to you so that you undo the URL translation and use again http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_via_SMB_(Samba)_Share_or_Windows_Share Regarding "ycp-format" versus "no-ycp-format": There is nothing like "ycp-format" in the yast2-printer source code source/printer/src/helps.ycp that gets installed identically as /usr/share/YaST2/include/printer/helps.ycp so that I cannot change it in yast2-printer source code. There are no *.po files in yast2-printer source code so that I cannot change it in yast/cs/po/printers.cs.po. The *.po files are generated by "some magic" where I do not have any knowledge how it works therefore I cannot change how the *.po files are generated. Someone whow knows how the *.po files stuff in YaST works should have a look. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859#c2 --- Comment #2 from Karl Eichwalder 2013-02-05 09:50:36 CET --- (In reply to comment #1)

Regarding "ycp-format" versus "no-ycp-format":

There is nothing like "ycp-format" in the yast2-printer source code source/printer/src/helps.ycp that gets installed identically as /usr/share/YaST2/include/printer/helps.ycp so that I cannot change it in yast2-printer source code.

There are no *.po files in yast2-printer source code so that I cannot change it in yast/cs/po/printers.cs.po.

The *.po files are generated by "some magic" where I do not have any knowledge how it works therefore I cannot change how the *.po files are generated.

Someone whow knows how the *.po files stuff in YaST works should have a look.

Johannes, you can add (in a comment) xgettext:no-ycp-format just before the message in your source code (= the code from where xgettext extracts these translatable strings). This feature is documented in the gettext manual: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Special-cases http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#PO-Files (search for ycp-format) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859#c4 Karl Eichwalder changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW InfoProvider|ke@suse.com | --- Comment #4 from Karl Eichwalder 2013-02-05 14:27:06 CET --- (In reply to comment #3)

What you suggest means that all authors of all YaST code must check all strings that are marked for translation _("...") whether or not a 'xgettext:no-ycp-format' comment is needed.

No, only if the translators encounter trouble. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

sformat( _("The value is '%1'. For details see the URL http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_via_SMB_(Samba)_Share_or_Windows_Share"), value ); -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pseudo code: // part 1/2 string1 = sformat( _("The value is '%1'."), value ); // part 2/2 // xgettext:no-ycp-format string2 = sformat( _("For details see the URL http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Printing_via_SMB_(Samba)_Share_or_Windows_Share"), "") string = string1 + " " + string2 ; But I admit that there could be cases more interesting (on that we could decide, if they surface). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859#c6 --- Comment #6 from Jan Papež 2013-02-06 09:17:02 UTC --- The URL https://cs.opensuse.org/SDB:Tisk_na_sd%C3%ADlen%C3%A9_tisk%C3%A1rn%C4%9B_%28... doesn't end on fallback page, but on precreated page by myself to translate it in future. I tried to change URL from help text in yast-printers to localized URL and it ended by failure. So I reported it. So if you find difficult to resolve it, i think you can close this request. I can change the URL to non-localized version and redirect it throught wiki. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859#c8 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |jsmeix@suse.com |ovo.novell.com | --- Comment #8 from Stephan Kulow 2013-02-26 17:02:57 CET --- Johannes, how is the screening team supposed to make sense out of this bug report? Assign it to someone who can help -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801859#c10 --- Comment #10 from Karl Eichwalder 2013-02-27 07:41:28 CET --- Jan, alternatively just use UTF-8 characters--the current web tools can probably deal with them: https://cs.opensuse.org/SDB:Tisk_na_sdílené_tiskárně_(SMB/Samba) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.