https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c1 --- Comment #1 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-09-23 01:23:55 MDT --- Probably related to #388754 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User snwint@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c3 Steffen Winterfeldt changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|snwint@novell.com |kasievers@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Steffen Winterfeldt 2008-09-23 03:44:51 MDT --- udevd loads the modules, not linuxrc -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kasievers@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c5 --- Comment #5 from Kay Sievers 2008-09-23 10:25:36 MDT --- We are telling for years now, that kernel device names have no meaning on todays heavily hotpluggable setups, only the meaningful symlinks based on device hardware or volume metadata can be used to identify volumes. This can not be fixed easily. We have no control over the loading order of different devices. We can not expect any "raw" kernel device name to be stable, it was pure luck that it worked in older installations. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kasievers@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c7 --- Comment #7 from Kay Sievers 2008-09-24 12:28:13 MDT --- All "raw" device names must be converted to meaningful id's, preferably UUID's of the used filesystem it contains, which is what most distros do today. If our preferences are different, we can use physical device id's or labels, but labels just ask for serious trouble with duplicates. Can't we collect some data from the running system before we do the upgrade? If such information can't be made available to the installer, and the device-name mountpoint relation can not be reliable determined otherwise, I guess the user must be asked at installation time to manually re-assign volumes to mount-points. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c9 --- Comment #9 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-09-25 02:41:17 MDT --- (In reply to comment #7 from Kay Sievers)

All "raw" device names must be converted to meaningful id's, preferably UUID's of the used filesystem it contains, which is what most distros do today. If our preferences are different, we can use physical device id's or labels, but labels just ask for serious trouble with duplicates.

Can't we collect some data from the running system before we do the upgrade? If such information can't be made available to the installer, and the device-name mountpoint relation can not be reliable determined otherwise, I guess the user must be asked at installation time to manually re-assign volumes to mount-points.

This should be tracked in FATE as it affects a lot of teams and subsystems. Just dicussing this in bugzilla is not sufficient -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c11 --- Comment #11 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-10-07 02:52:05 MDT --- See also bug 429130 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c13 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |visnov@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |visnov@novell.com --- Comment #13 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-10-07 04:53:35 MDT --- Understood. Its something we have to fix in our upgrade tool (Yast), see my comment in bug 429130. Stano, I propose to close this one and follow up via bug 429130. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c15 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kkaempf@novell.com AssignedTo|kkaempf@novell.com |flucifredi@novell.com --- Comment #15 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-10-14 02:37:43 MDT --- Well, I believe customers will be quite upset if their systems fail to work after a dist-upgrade (and our answer is: Please reinstall). Passing to Federico, your call if this is a bug or a feature ... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c17 Klaus Kämpf changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |flucifredi@novell.com --- Comment #17 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-10-28 07:36:24 MDT --- Hmm, my scenario is - one disk ('root') attached to the on-board IDE controller - one disk ('backup') attached to an PCI S-ATA controller - /etc/fstab using '/dev/sdaX' and '/dev/sdbX' As a customer, I would at least expect the system to print a big, fat warning. Ideally, the update tool should support me in migrating this scenario to a supported one (rewriting the device pathes). Federico, I leave it up to you to either raise this bugs priority, move it to fate, or declare it as unsupported. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 Duncan Mac-Vicar changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|dmacvicar@novell.com |aschnell@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User aschnell@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c23 Arvin Schnell changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |locilka@novell.com --- Comment #23 from Arvin Schnell 2008-11-20 03:02:54 MST --- This will somehow be implemented in RootPart.ycp. Adding Lukas. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User aschnell@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c25 Arvin Schnell changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |ke@novell.com --- Comment #25 from Arvin Schnell 2008-11-20 06:21:40 MST --- Karl: There's a new message in yast2-update. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019 User kkaempf@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=429019#c27 --- Comment #27 from Klaus Kämpf 2008-11-20 08:44:43 MST --- Thanks to all involved in getting this resolved. I will take care for the FATE request. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.