[Bug 721773] New: Wish: please update Thunderbird in main repository
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773#c0 Summary: Wish: please update Thunderbird in main repository Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.4 Version: Final Platform: All OS/Version: openSUSE 11.4 Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: Firefox AssignedTo: bnc-team-mozilla@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: dmitry.ashkadov@gmail.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/6.0.2 Hello! Main repository contain last Firefox, but Thunderbird is old (3.1.14). Is it possible to update Thunderbird to last version without addition of OBS repository? Thank you! Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773#c1 Marcus Meissner <meissner@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |meissner@suse.com, | |wolfgang@rosenauer.org --- Comment #1 from Marcus Meissner <meissner@suse.com> 2011-10-03 21:04:19 UTC --- 7.x? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773#c2 --- Comment #2 from Dmitry Ashkadov <dmitry.ashkadov@gmail.com> 2011-10-03 21:10:22 UTC --- (In reply to comment #1)
7.x?
Yes. Thunderbird 7.x. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773#c3 --- Comment #3 from Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> 2011-10-04 05:48:34 UTC --- It has pros and cons. Now people have a version which is quite old (but actually not that outdated technically yet, or what do you miss for example?). When we update we will have people complaining that their addons stop working for some days or weeks or forever (if the addon is unmaintained) with every update which we would have to follow to get security issues fixed. That's not an easy decision. It's the old "version stability" against "new features" thing where I don't even see that many new features. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773#c4 --- Comment #4 from Dmitry Ashkadov <dmitry.ashkadov@gmail.com> 2011-10-04 09:16:55 UTC --- Earlier I used 'Mozilla' repository containing last Thunderbird. But security updates causes reinstalling Firefox from main repository if it [Firefox] was installed from 'Mozilla' repository. Moreover, some related to Firefox packages can installed only with Firefox from main repository. So, it is difficult to use Firefox from 'Mozilla' repository. So, must I add 'Mozilla' repository to install only Thunderbird? And what are a differences between Firefox from main repository and from 'mozilla' repository? Is the security updates only for Firefox from main repo or firefox updates from 'mozilla' repo includes the same security updates?
When we update we will have people complaining that their addons stop working... Yes, there exists this problem. But Firefox from main repository updates very frequently, so some extensions for Firefox 7 stop working. One of them is openSUSE specific extension 'openSUSE Firefox Extensions'. It stopped working since Firefox 6 and there are no updates for this extension in main repository. More people use Firefox than Thunderbird. Many people use Firefox and web-interface to read/write/send the letters. So, I think the problem "addons stop working" is problem for Firefox.
What do you miss for example? After downgrade I found out that it is difficult to switch language of letter using context menu (right button). In Thunderbird 3.x I must open spelling dialog to switch language.
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773#c5 --- Comment #5 from Wolfgang Rosenauer <wolfgang@rosenauer.org> 2011-10-04 09:48:45 UTC --- (In reply to comment #4)
Earlier I used 'Mozilla' repository containing last Thunderbird. But security updates causes reinstalling Firefox from main repository if it [Firefox] was installed from 'Mozilla' repository.
That's not true. The mozilla repository is always faster than the official repository with version updates. There never was a reason to switch to the official version (actually they are identical anyway).
Moreover, some related to Firefox packages can installed only with Firefox from main repository. So, it is difficult to use Firefox from 'Mozilla' repository.
Please tell me examples. I (and I'm sure others) am using Firefox only from that repository and have no issues.
So, must I add 'Mozilla' repository to install only Thunderbird? And what are a differences between Firefox from main repository and from 'mozilla' repository? Is the security updates only for Firefox from main repo or firefox updates from 'mozilla' repo includes the same security updates?
There is no difference nowadays since all the packages are maintained by the same person. The version in mozilla usually gets released earlier just by not having to follow the maintenance workflow. Even Thunderbird 3.6.x is still available in the mozilla repository in the same version as in the official 11.4 update channel. The difference is that "mozilla" has always the latest stable versions while your distribution might still have older versions (which still get security updates). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773#c6 --- Comment #6 from Dmitry Ashkadov <dmitry.ashkadov@gmail.com> 2011-12-23 14:52:49 UTC --- openSUSE 12.1 repository contains last Thunderbird. I think, this task may be closed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721773#c7 Dmitry Ashkadov <dmitry.ashkadov@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #7 from Dmitry Ashkadov <dmitry.ashkadov@gmail.com> 2011-12-23 14:54:00 UTC --- Thitsk isn't actual. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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