[Bug 272097] New: Could YaST autodetect i586 systems vs. i686?
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 Summary: Could YaST autodetect i586 systems vs. i686? Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Alpha 3plus Platform: i586 OS/Version: openSUSE 10.3 Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: HANtwister@comcast.net QAContact: jsrain@novell.com This is an enhancement request - could YaST be made to automatically detect if an x86 system is an i586 or i686, and automatically select the appropriate version of glibc and any other architecture-specific packages? This might save some new users with older/specialty computers a bit of confusion. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 chrubis@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |locilka@novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 locilka@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|locilka@novell.com |kkaempf@novell.com ------- Comment #1 from locilka@novell.com 2007-05-10 07:37 MST ------- This might be a feature request for ZYPP -> kkaempf -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 kkaempf@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |HANtwister@comcast.net ------- Comment #2 from kkaempf@novell.com 2007-05-11 01:49 MST ------- YaST (resp. zypp) does this already. Where's the bug ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 HANtwister@comcast.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|HANtwister@comcast.net | ------- Comment #3 from HANtwister@comcast.net 2007-05-11 06:04 MST ------- For example, I have an i586 system. YaST does not automatically select the i586 version of Glibc when installing, so I have to select that manually. Further, if I have YaST select to install all matching -debuginfo packages, it automatically selects the i686 version of glibc-debuginfo, even though the i586 version of glibc is installed, causing a conflict, and, once again, I have to select the i586 architecture manually. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 kkaempf@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |HANtwister@comcast.net ------- Comment #4 from kkaempf@novell.com 2007-05-11 06:42 MST ------- Please provide the content of /proc/cpuinfo for your system. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 HANtwister@comcast.net changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|HANtwister@comcast.net | ------- Comment #5 from HANtwister@comcast.net 2007-05-11 15:48 MST ------- proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineTMx86 cpu family : 6 model : 4 model name : Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800 stepping : 3 cpu MHz : 997.672 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr cx8 sep cmov mmx longrun lrti constant_tsc up bogomips : 2028.09 clflush size : 32 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 ------- Comment #6 from kkaempf@novell.com 2007-05-12 02:16 MST ------- Ah, now things get interesting ;-) The flags show "cx8" and "cmov", which are features of an i686 processor. What does 'uname -a' say about your system ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 ------- Comment #7 from HANtwister@comcast.net 2007-05-12 13:01 MST ------- uname -a: Linux <computer name or IP> 2.6.21-6-default #1 SMP Thu May 10 08:02:44 UTC 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux (Yes, I do notice the 'i686' mentioned in the output - this is just an interesting case simply because some operating systems view this processor as an i686, some an i586 [ SuSE once recognized it as an i586 - http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Installation_on_Systems_with_Transmeta_Crusoe_Pro... ], some an 'enhanced' i586, and some don't know what to make of it... [ I was previously led to believe that this Processor supported some i686 features, but not all, and, thus, it was an i586 ] Although I haven't had any real problems in openSuSE to date using the i686 version of glibc (I've reinstalled it), I have had random crashes with some i686-only programs on this computer in other Operating Systems that worked perfectly fine on a 'true' i686) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 kkaempf@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |snwint@novell.com ------- Comment #8 from kkaempf@novell.com 2007-05-13 05:25 MST -------
From an installers point of view, your processor is an i686. It identifies itself as i686 and also supports 'cmov' and 'cx8', which are important for the i686 variant of glibc.
If some applications don't work properly, please file specific bug reports. Steffen, NEEDINFO to you. Please have a look at comment #7 and explain the last 'i386' on the uname line. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 snwint@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|snwint@novell.com | ------- Comment #9 from snwint@novell.com 2007-05-14 03:30 MST ------- # uname --help [...] -a, --all print all information, in the following order: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [...] -i, --hardware-platform print the hardware platform Note that such a thing as an 'i686 processor' doesn't exist. What matters here is which instructions gcc expects to work when you compile for 'i686'. That's something to ask the gcc team. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272097 kkaempf@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID ------- Comment #10 from kkaempf@novell.com 2007-05-14 03:57 MST ------- I just looked at the output of uname on my system (Core 2 Duo) and its identical to the one in comment #7. So the Transmeta processor _is_ fully i686 compatible ;-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
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