[Bug 392989] New: "Keep" status of pattern during new installation -- there should be no such status
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=392989 Summary: "Keep" status of pattern during new installation -- there should be no such status Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: Beta 3plus Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: libzypp AssignedTo: zypp-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: locilka@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de CC: sh@novell.com Found By: --- Created an attachment (id=217147) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=217147) Screenshot See the attached screenshot * Even if none of packages listed in "Internet Gateway" are selected the pattern is in status "Keep" * Additionally, status "Keep" doesn't make sense for New Installation as there is no system previously installed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #1 from Lukas Ocilka
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Stefan Hundhammer
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Duncan Mac-Vicar
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Ján Kupec
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--- Comment #5 from Lukas Ocilka
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--- Comment #6 from Stefan Hundhammer
Well, maybe "satisfied" but Help for those symbols says "keep" :) Why we have the same icon for two different purposes? It confusing.
We discussed that for quite some time and found that alternative solutions (completely net status values with completely new icons) seem to be even more confusing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Michael Schröder
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Stephan Kulow
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--- Comment #9 from Thorsten Kukuk
Any of the CCed with input on this topic?
I think patterns only having Recommends are quite useless. At least on SLES we will not run into this problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #10 from Lukas Ocilka
I think patterns only having Recommends are quite useless.
It's just about misusing patterns to cover the "groups" functionality. They are more obvious to user (in pattern selector) but not useful at all when it comes to selecting them. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Stephan Kulow
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--- Comment #12 from Michael Schröder
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Lukas Ocilka
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--- Comment #14 from Michael Schröder
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--- Comment #15 from Lukas Ocilka
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--- Comment #16 from Lukas Ocilka
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--- Comment #17 from Stefan Hundhammer
That's more like a workaround. We have to fix the UI some day...
Well, no. That's a conceptual problem. It doesn't make sense to work around that in every UI. Think about it: By now we have qt-pkg, ncurses-pkg, gtk-pky, zypper. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #18 from Michael Schröder
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--- Comment #19 from Lukas Ocilka
selected: what's that? why do we need that?
Sorry, I don't speak zyppish so I call statuses by how they appear in UI :) ;) 'Selected' is a resolvable that would get installed after you call Commit-Transaction. This bugreport has been filed as a packager bug first - from user perspective. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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