[Bug 722457] New: Touchpad tapping disabled by default in KDE
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722457 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722457#c0 Summary: Touchpad tapping disabled by default in KDE Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 12.1 Version: Beta 1 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: KDE4 Workspace AssignedTo: kde-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: martin.schlander@gmail.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- User-Agent: Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; da) Presto/2.9.168 Version/11.51 On a 12.1 beta touchpad tapping is disabled by default. In 11.4 this situation was fixed by explicitly enabling tapping in the synaptiks settings afaik. But with the new synaptiks this apparently got lost. If possible we should probably also reintroduce disabling the touchpad on keyboard acitivity with a timeout of 0.8 secs. (like in 11.4, this nice default setting also got lost with synaptiks 0.7 upgrade it seems). This also raises the issue that synaptiks is not included on the live iso. But coolo said he'd look into that. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Do a fresh install 2. Try to tap the touchpad 3. Actual Results: Tapping doesn't "work". The user will usually think openSUSE/KDE does not support his hardware properly. Expected Results: Tapping should work out of the box. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Vinzenz Bargsten
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Martin Schlander
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--- Comment #9 from Takashi Iwai
Well, I don't mind how the default is, but I don't want to change the default in the driver back and forth again and again with each and every openSUSE release.
Yeah, it's bad.
In the past there have been voices to have a consistent user experience
a) with KDE/GNOME b) other WMs, that don't ship graphical tools to change it c) and the behaviour during installation
and the end result was, that we want to have it disabled by default driver-wise.
I think the decision was made rather "to follow upstream". But the upstream default is bad, we distrio should take a position rather "good for users". We must learn from the notorious experience of 12.1 polkit setup for NM...
Maybe these voices meanwhile have left the company and/or openSUSE community and we can finally switch to have it enabled by default driver-wise, no matter what KDE/GNOME do with this setting by default.
Yes.
What's the default on current Windows/MacOS operating systems?
Windows enables tap-to-click on as default, at least, on all preloaded machines I've seen. Not sure how the bare Windows installation behaves, though. On MacOS, tap-to-click is definitely enabled; Mac have no physical buttons :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #10 from Stefan Dirsch
In the past there have been voices to have a consistent user experience
a) with KDE/GNOME b) other WMs, that don't ship graphical tools to change it c) and the behaviour during installation
and the end result was, that we want to have it disabled by default driver-wise.
I think the decision was made rather "to follow upstream".
Could be, after we couldn't agree on a consistent default. I no longer remember exactly ...
What's the default on current Windows/MacOS operating systems?
Windows enables tap-to-click on as default, at least, on all preloaded machines I've seen. Not sure how the bare Windows installation behaves, though.
I believe this is true, since I could only find hints via Google how to disable it. ;-)
On MacOS, tap-to-click is definitely enabled; Mac have no physical buttons :)
Well, a lot of hints could be found via Google how to enable this feature, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnml6j3wFsM so it seems to be disabled by default. But how one can click at all without any mouse buttons (I couldn't see any on the video above either) I do not understand either ... My guess is that more users are considering to switch from Windows to Linux than from MacOs to Linux, so the default to have tab-to-click enabled makes sense to me. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #12 from Martin Schlander
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