[Bug 216263] New: Improvement of navigation in Kickoff
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216263 Summary: Improvement of navigation in Kickoff Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Beta 1 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: KDE AssignedTo: kde-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: kendy@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de I tried the new KDE menu, and though I generally like the idea, I have few comments that could (hopefully) make it more usable. I hope these are not just a matter of personal taste ;-) - The "focus follows mouse everywhere" is too intrusive. Though it should work inside the tabs themselves, it should _not_ be used to switch them (happens too often unintentionally). - Similarly, it should not be enough to point the mouse over the search box to see the Tips or the results - click should do that (also happens too often unintentionally & is even hander to undo). - On the other hand I am missing such functionality for submenus in "All programs" - when the mouse stays over the area of triangle indicating a submenu, it should roll into the submenu; similarly for the going up in the hierarchy (the triangle on the left). - No idea how to present it visually the best way, but similarly to the navigation to the submenu it would be nice to be able to roll the entries up/down without having to click, or roll with the mouse wheel. - "Restart computer" in the "Leave" tab should not be a tree, but a submenu - consistently with "All programs" - Where's the control center? ;-) I found no way to get the kcontrol from there; shouldn't it be on a prominent place? (eg. in "My computer" or something?) And a controversial one: - The items inside the tab should be aligned to the bottom, not top (when there's space because the Kickoff is too large, the space should be at the top, not at the bottom - to shorten the path one must go with the mouse). Thank you! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216263 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #1 from coolo@novell.com 2006-10-30 08:35 MST -------
I tried the new KDE menu, and though I generally like the idea, I have few comments that could (hopefully) make it more usable. I hope these are not just a matter of personal taste ;-)
No problem, I'm getting used to WONTFIX them
- The "focus follows mouse everywhere" is too intrusive. Though it should work inside the tabs themselves, it should _not_ be used to switch them (happens too often unintentionally).
You can disable it if your mouse does not behave. We want it that way it is.
- Similarly, it should not be enough to point the mouse over the search box to see the Tips or the results - click should do that (also happens too often unintentionally & is even hander to undo).
That is actually not the way it was designed. That should indeed only activate on click -> bug.
- On the other hand I am missing such functionality for submenus in "All programs" - when the mouse stays over the area of triangle indicating a submenu, it should roll into the submenu; similarly for the going up in the hierarchy (the triangle on the left).
Won't happen.
- No idea how to present it visually the best way, but similarly to the navigation to the submenu it would be nice to be able to roll the entries up/down without having to click, or roll with the mouse wheel.
If you have an idea, let us know.
- "Restart computer" in the "Leave" tab should not be a tree, but a submenu - consistently with "All programs"
That was just the first step, it wasn't meant to stay in a tree.
- Where's the control center? ;-) I found no way to get the kcontrol from there; shouldn't it be on a prominent place? (eg. in "My computer" or something?)
The most prominent place are the Favorites.
And a controversial one:
- The items inside the tab should be aligned to the bottom, not top (when there's space because the Kickoff is too large, the space should be at the top, not at the bottom - to shorten the path one must go with the mouse).
Been there, done that: it sucks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216263 coolo@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED ------- Comment #2 from coolo@novell.com 2006-10-30 08:51 MST ------- fixed the search hover -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216263 ------- Comment #3 from kendy@novell.com 2006-10-30 09:07 MST -------
- The "focus follows mouse everywhere" is too intrusive. Though it should work inside the tabs themselves, it should _not_ be used to switch them (happens too often unintentionally). You can disable it if your mouse does not behave. We want it that way it is.
You mean disable the 'focus follows mouse on tabs' or the entire Kickoff, please? I would like to do the former, but no idea where; found just the latter...
- No idea how to present it visually the best way, but similarly to the navigation to the submenu it would be nice to be able to roll the entries up/down without having to click, or roll with the mouse wheel. If you have an idea, let us know.
Well - I have... When on the first/last item, after a short timeout something like a tooltip with a button containing arrow up/down (and 'scrool up/down' text?) could appear near the mouse pointer; mouse over it would scroll. Of course - did not try it, no idea if it's usable at all.
- Where's the control center? ;-) I found no way to get the kcontrol from there; shouldn't it be on a prominent place? (eg. in "My computer" or something?) The most prominent place are the Favorites.
Mea culpa, sorry! But what if one removes it from there; is there another way to trigger it later? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216263 ------- Comment #4 from coolo@novell.com 2006-10-30 09:12 MST -------
Mea culpa, sorry! But what if one removes it from there; is there another way to trigger it later? It will appear in All Apps
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