https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User robermann@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c1 robermann79 robermann79 changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |robermann@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from robermann79 robermann79 2008-06-11 06:08:04 MDT --- Yes, a summary of total bytes being installed *before* any download and actual installation is very useful. It should be possible: besides zypper itself, If I'm not wrong, SMART shows that size. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User robermann@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c3 robermann79 robermann79 changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Component|YaST2 |YaST2 OS/Version|openSUSE 10.3 |openSUSE 11.0 Product|openSUSE 10.3 |openSUSE 11.0 Target Milestone|--- |RC 2 Version|Final |RC 2 --- Comment #3 from robermann79 robermann79 2008-06-11 06:19:08 MDT --- Yes, a summary of total bytes being installed *before* any download and actual installation is very useful. It should be possible: besides zypper itself, If I'm not wrong, SMART shows that size. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 Lukas Ocilka changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|robermann@gmail.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User lslezak@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c4 Ladislav Slezak changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |andrea.turrini@gmail.com --- Comment #4 from Ladislav Slezak 2008-06-13 09:46:02 MDT --- Yast displays diska usage in a special widget. Unfortunately it's quite hidden. See https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=218181 If you select a package for installation the disk usage should be updated. The problem is that it doesn't work with YUM sources, it work with standard (Yast) installation sources only (that's another bug). Is that enough to display the usage in the table? Or would you prefer something different? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User lslezak@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c6 --- Comment #6 from Ladislav Slezak 2008-06-13 10:03:59 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=222067) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=222067) Screenshot Oh, the bug is internal... I'm copying it here. Move the marked slider up, there is a disk usage table. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User robermann@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c8 --- Comment #8 from robermann79 robermann79 2008-06-13 10:25:54 MDT --- I'm not the reporter, but I maybe would prefer a popup window showing the total rpm size and installed sizes; the popup could open up when, in the combobox, the user choises "installation summary" item. In my opinion the disk usage table is not very visible - being possible to have it closed by the slider down. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User robermann@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c9 --- Comment #9 from robermann79 robermann79 2008-06-13 10:58:58 MDT --- Assuming the popup solution, it could also open up when clicking on the "accept" button. That dialog window should give to the user the option to abort the installation and go back to the packet choosing step. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User robermann@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c11 --- Comment #11 from robermann79 robermann79 2008-06-14 05:26:51 MDT --- An evident disk space modification is also useful when removing packages. Now the user should take note of it before marking them for removal. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User sh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c13 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #13 from Stefan Hundhammer 2008-06-17 03:08:48 MDT --- It's a pop-up dialog so you get WARNED. And you only get warned once per program run. It only appears again if you significantly free up disk space and then begin to fill it again. As for putting it in the bottom left corner: We had that. In fact, it's still there, but pretty much hidden: Look at the dotted line at the bottom left corner. This is a sub-window resizer. If you move that up, you will see the good old disk usage display. Quite a number of people wanted this invisible by default; they say (I don't agree to that) that this makes this dialog more complex. So it was decided that we remove it. Please discuss this on one of the mailing lists; maybe there are more users in favour of getting it back. This used to be the not-so-intrusive warning before the pop-up. Not only the intrusive part is left. It wasn't my decision, and I don't like it one bit. But I got overruled. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User andrea.turrini@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c15 --- Comment #15 from Andrea Turrini 2008-06-17 06:25:36 MDT --- Hi Stefan, reading your comment, I'm not sure to be been enough clear about what I and the other commentators (robertmann and andrea martin) propose. In particular, we would have a graphical way to know the exact (or at least a quite good approximation of) variation of the disk usage before the actually install/update/remove packages using yast2, in a similar way of the textual information provided by zypper. Not the current absolute disk usage, that is already provided and now hidden by default in openSUSE 11. In particular, the disk usage variation is (in some sense) already shown by yast, but it is so hidden and not evident that after more that two years of openSUSE usage, I discovered it only because Ladislav told me that it is present. As I told in previous comments, I'm still using openSUSE 10.3 so I can not verify what yast2 shows in openSUSE 11. So, our proposal is to integrate informations already provided about the absolute disk usage with a more explicit information about the disk usage variation. The proposed ways to show these informations are: - a popup triggered when Installation Summary is chosen - a popup triggered when Accept button is pushed - a popup activated by a new button - add them somewhere on the interface - a popup activated by a menu item - integrate them inside the already available box in the bottom left corner, even if they are logically different informations A common objection for the first two proposals is that automatic popups are not loved (and personally I agree with this objection) while an objection about the third proposal is that adding another button to the yast2 interface can make it heavier than now. The same objection applies to the forth proposal. On the contrary, I see no possible objections about the fifth and the sixth proposals. In fact: the actual yast2 interface remains unchanged (except for a new menu item, but it is shown only when such menu is opened); if someone does not want to see absolute disk usage and disk usage modification then (s)he does not have them; if someone wants such informations then (s)he has a way to obtain them. The only possible objection to this proposal is that someone can say: "I always want to be warned about disk usage modification!" Possible answers could be: I don't care about your objection, popup are usually not loved; or You have a way to obtain such information. Concluding, our proposal is not in contrast with the community decision to hide by default disk usage box but it can be integrated inside yast2 modules in such a way it can make happy everybody. I hope you can reconsider your decision about to will not fix such proposal after my precisations. Andrea -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User robermann@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c17 --- Comment #17 from robermann79 robermann79 2008-06-18 13:45:49 MDT --- Hi Stefan

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- a popup activated by a menu item A menu item would be the _only_ place to add anything like that.

So why not apply this solution? We could label it "Disk space variation", or something like it; the "disk usage table widget" would remain unchanged. What do you think? Feel free to reopen this bug ;) ciao rob -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User sh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c19 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #19 from Stefan Hundhammer 2008-06-24 03:20:08 MDT --- Restoring old resolution -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239 User robermann@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399239#c21 --- Comment #21 from robermann79 robermann79 2008-08-23 06:26:50 MDT --- Hi submitted a patch to the yast-devel mailing list. It will add a string to the tooltip showed when mouse over the "free" column, in the disk usage widget, for QT GUI. The string is " - Installing xxx MB" or " - Removing -xxx MB", per-mount point. That patch uses the same information handled by the bar and percentage; currently the detailed diskusage (per directory) is only supported for the susetags format (i.e. the install repositories). On the zypp-devel mailing list pointed out that some work on SVN is going to support also diskusage for XML repositories (e.g. the update repo and all buildservice repos are of that type). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.