[Bug 250143] New: Request for a configuration tool for extra buttons of mice and keyboards
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 Summary: Request for a configuration tool for extra buttons of mice and keyboards Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Alpha 1plus Platform: All OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: KDE AssignedTo: kde-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: slonoinquisitor@gmail.com QAContact: qa@suse.de It would be nice for SuSe to allow for a simple configuration of extra buttons of mice and keyboards. The configuration of extra mice buttons through xorg.conf is too complicated for an average user, so many users simply leave the extra buttons unused, which is not making Linux more user-friendly in their eyes. The same applies to multimedia buttons of modern keyboards. In Windows one has e.g. Logitech drivers that allow for a simple and quick configuration. Presently there are serious advances in Linux configuration tools. For example see the keyTouch project (http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/), which embraces most of the keyboard models on the market. Why not implement the tool similar to the keyTouch, but also with the mice support, directly in the KDE Control Center? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 llunak@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |llunak@novell.com AssignedTo|kde-maintainers@suse.de |ms@novell.com Component|KDE |SaX2 ------- Comment #1 from llunak@novell.com 2007-04-20 05:31 MST ------- It is not KDE's job to configure X. Proper keyboard and mouse models should be selected in Sax or wherever, so if something is missing, it's missing there. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 ------- Comment #2 from slonoinquisitor@gmail.com 2007-04-20 05:43 MST ------- Dear Lubos, this is exactly why I first submitted it as a feature request for Sax2, see Bug#250122. However, I was answered that "Configurations like that are better done on the desktop systems The big advantage there is that you can do changes on the fly which sax2 can't do because it writes persistent data to the xorg.conf", so I had to resubmit a feature request for KDE. As an end user, I feel that the feature is missing. But of course I can not decide whether it should be added to Sax2 or KDE. The decision is up to developers. I would only ask to solve the problem in the end. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 ------- Comment #3 from llunak@novell.com 2007-04-20 05:55 MST ------- I don't see the point of being able to configure keyboard or mouse model on the fly. And, as for using them, when a proper model is selected, e.g. multimedia keys are usable as any other normal key. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 ------- Comment #4 from slonoinquisitor@gmail.com 2007-04-20 06:03 MST ------- It is probably more convenient to have a possibility to reassign a mouse button to another task on the fly, e.g. when you switch from the web browser to inkscape. But this is not so important as to have the configuration tool in any form, let alone in the form of KDE applet. Currently, there is no decent tool to configure extra mouse buttons and multimedia keys in Suse, which is a pity. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 ------- Comment #5 from slonoinquisitor@gmail.com 2007-04-20 06:07 MST ------- By the way, imagine that you would like to assign a "play" button on your multimedia keyboard, say, to Kaffeine or Amarok. Should you also do it via Sax2, or the KDE configuration tool would be a more natural way? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 ------- Comment #6 from llunak@novell.com 2007-04-20 07:36 MST ------- I'm confused. Are you talking about configuring the keyboard and mouse themselves, i.e. that the proper hardware model is selected, or about configuring their functionality. If the sooner, that's handled by X. If the latter, then I don't see why you mention xorg.conf, as that has nothing to do with it - you can configure the play key to do something in Amarok by simply assigning that key to an action in Amarok's configuration (assuming keyboard itself is configured properly). So, what is this about again? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 ms@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |slonoinquisitor@gmail.com ------- Comment #7 from ms@novell.com 2007-04-20 08:22 MST ------- good question and as I said the basic functionality of a mouse and a keyboard is to report any event. The handling of such events and its configuration is not part of the xorg.conf because this is something handled dynamically and belongs to the desktop. That was what I tried to explain in comment #2 basic configuration of for example multimedia keyboards is possible with sax2. Setting up event driven actions like play or surfing aren't. So I'm wondering about the report again -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 ------- Comment #8 from slonoinquisitor@gmail.com 2007-04-20 08:56 MST ------- I am talking about configuring the functionality, i.e. the actions assigned to extra buttons of mice. I mentioned xorg because AFAIK to assign an action to an extra mouse button one currently has to i) install imwheel, ii) edit xorg.conf and iii) edit .imwheelrc, see e.g. http://forall.ru-board.com/Demetrio/lor/imwheel.txt . This is not too convenient, especially as compared to the way provided by a Logitech driver in Windows: just start the configuration dialog from the Control Panel and choose the actions for each mouse button. On the fly.:) As for keyboards, I can see now that the 'keyboard shortcut' section of KDE Control Center is probably powerful enough to assign events to a properly configured keyboard, so my request should only relate to mice. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 llunak@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|llunak@novell.com | AssignedTo|ms@novell.com |kde-maintainers@suse.de Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Component|SaX2 |KDE Info Provider|slonoinquisitor@gmail.com | Summary|Request for a configuration |Use mouse buttons for shortcuts |tool for extra buttons of | |mice and keyboards | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 llunak@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |LATER ------- Comment #9 from llunak@novell.com 2007-05-17 09:47 MST ------- This is not SUSE-specific and there is an upstream report: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96431 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143 User jpr@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250143#c10 JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- URL| |http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96431 Keywords| |should_go_upstream Resolution|LATER |UPSTREAM --- Comment #10 from JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> 2008-08-25 11:54:37 MDT --- Update resolution to UPSTREAM. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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