[Bug 226137] New: Bluetooth in GNOME does not work in default installation
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 Summary: Bluetooth in GNOME does not work in default installation Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: RC 5 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: GNOME AssignedTo: bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: sbrabec@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de I installed default GNOME system. YaST properly detected Bluetooth support during installation. But bluez-gnome, which is now required for authentification was not installed. After installing it, outgoing connections are working correctly, but incoming connection don't work and "Mode of operation" in bluetooth-applet is greyed out and I don't see any other GUI options to enable it. bluetooth-applet shows when plugging dongle: "Device switched into off mode". -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #1 from sbrabec@novell.com 2006-12-15 09:38 MST ------- Things start to be usable after calling: "apitest SetMode discoverable" Maybe bluetooth-applet does not render properly, if the device is in off mode. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 casualprogrammer@yahoo.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |casualprogrammer@yahoo.com Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High ------- Comment #2 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-01-14 09:14 MST ------- This is also true for bugs 229280, 234115 and 234118. The question remains, how any user after installing openSUSE 10.2 is supposed to guess this solution. There must be a way to fix this initally. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #3 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-01-14 09:15 MST ------- *** Bug 234115 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #4 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-01-14 09:16 MST ------- *** Bug 234118 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 casualprogrammer@yahoo.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mhejpetr@mhn.cz ------- Comment #5 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-01-14 09:17 MST ------- *** Bug 229280 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 jpr@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |aj@novell.com ------- Comment #6 from jpr@novell.com 2007-02-09 13:32 MST ------- AJ, can you add bluez-gnome to the desktop pattern for gnome in 10.3? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 aj@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|aj@novell.com | ------- Comment #7 from aj@novell.com 2007-02-10 08:38 MST ------- It's already in there for 10.3. Was the package on the 10.2 media? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #8 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-02-12 04:30 MST ------- It was on media or public FTP, because I did installation from there. But the default setup it did not work without a trivial, but not obvious hack (opening terminal and calling "apitest SetMode discoverable"). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #9 from jpr@novell.com 2007-02-12 08:17 MST ------- Is that setting something that should be available in yast Stanislav? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #10 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-02-12 08:35 MST ------- I am not sure, where the problem is. But setting in YaST Bluetooth did not help. I cannot reproduce this problem - it was one time and since calling this command it works, even after reboot. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 jpr@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |behlert@novell.com ------- Comment #11 from jpr@novell.com 2007-02-12 09:55 MST ------- Stefan, any thoughts? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 behlert@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dgollub@novell.com, behlert@novell.com Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|behlert@novell.com | ------- Comment #12 from behlert@novell.com 2007-02-12 10:48 MST ------- No, Yast should not help. The complete BT-stack and device-enabling has changed to much. The D-Bus initialization of the discoverable mode (that's the command you executed Stanislav) is stored and re-used. I expect to get the whole D-Bus issues with BT fixed for 10.3. An update for 10.2 is required then, I'd say. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #13 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-02-13 03:37 MST ------- It may be an applet GUI problem (not being able to handle OFF mode). Or is it a problem of lower layer? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #14 from behlert@novell.com 2007-02-14 06:05 MST ------- Yes, it's more a GUi problem than a low-level problem. AFAIK the GNOME BT-utilities do not support the D-Bus mechanism of the new subsystem yet. Someone will have to look at that, but the low-level systems are still changing rapidly at the moment - I expect that this will be more stable after mid of May. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 casualprogrammer@yahoo.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS/Version|Other |openSUSE 10.2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #15 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-29 00:28 MST ------- Just to let you know: Nothing has changed so far ( openSuSE 10.3 alpha3plus ), this is rather odd, as Bluetooth is rendered completely useless for the average user. How many people do you think would follow an invitation to switch from Windows XP to openSuSE under that pretext ? You may visit http://www.freewebs.com/casualprogrammer/myblog.htm?blogentryid=1144539 for more details on how complex a simple issue can get for an average user. As Bluetooth for most mobile users is a must ( if only to dial up through their phones modem ) this should be handled with some more verve. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #16 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-29 00:33 MST ------- P.S. The necessary packages are still not installed on setting up Bluetooth but have to be picked manually ( bluez-gnome, bluez-hcidump, bluez-test ) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #17 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-29 00:36 MST ------- P.P.S. Sorry, something HAS changed after all, bluez-test is now broken: workstation6l:/var/spool # apitest SetMode discoverable Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/apitest", line 82, in <module> class Tester: File "/usr/bin/apitest", line 182, in Tester @dbus.decorators.explicitly_pass_message AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'explicitly_pass_message' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #18 from behlert@novell.com 2007-04-30 02:25 MST ------- Thanks for your comments. As said in comment 14 do not expect fast changes before mid of May. Please remember that you are using an alpha version which is far from being stable or feature complete. No one will/can work on that packages until the interfaces of the underlying subsystems are stable. If you want to send in patches to fix things you are welcome :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #19 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-30 04:04 MST ------- A good first step until mid may would be to include ALL necessary packages when installing BT ( see comment #16 ), probably not asking too much. Apart from that this issue was reported against 10.2 which is supposed to be released officially, NOT alpha ( at least post beta ). If I wasn't a casual programmer, I probably would pick up your suggestion "If you want to send in patches to fix things you are welcome :)", alas you will have to fix it on your own, I am just pointing out the broken parts ;-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #20 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-04-30 04:41 MST ------- Looking more at it, it seems, that the primary stupid bug is the fact, that the applet is not able to switch from/to Off mode, but the default mode is Off. How to reproduce: Have a working Bluetooth. Call: apitest SetMode Off .. And you are back in unusable state. Applet disables "Mode of operation" and it is not more possible to change mode. The second issue here may be a bad package selection/dependencies. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #21 from behlert@novell.com 2007-04-30 05:24 MST ------- comment 19: Right, this bug is against 10.2, but the problem is deeper. It cannot be fixed easily, as comment 12 mentions an update can not be made before things are fixed which will be done for 10.3. I am not even sure yet if 10.2 can get an update then due to the various API changes :( For the package dependencies you are right, it would be good to install all packages when BT is detected. I think that's what you mean with 'when installing BT'. But that's a complete other story, sigh. It can be solved by package selection or by hardware detection, both with it's advantages and disadvantages. But let's avoid mixing two bugs here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #22 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-30 05:50 MST ------- Do you want me to file a separate bug against YaST for the packaging then ? Actually as far as I remember the last installation process, during hardware detection BT is declared as being there, but nothing is configured. Only if you click on the BT entry and select one or more services YaST tells you that such and such package needs to be installed. Alas the ones mentioned in comment #16 are not among them. So, during that install ( 10.3 alpha3 DVD ), I didn't even get as far as seeing the BT applet when switching on BT. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #23 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-04-30 09:23 MST ------- I sent a proposal for fix of "No GNOME way to enable Bluetooth": http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=1177946201.5443.59.camel%40hammer.suse.cz&forum_name=bluez-devel It does not need and API changes, only a small GNOME bluetooth-properties change. The problem is not yet fixed in bluez CVS. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 dgollub@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #24 from dgollub@novell.com 2007-04-30 13:51 MST ------- I wrote a simple patch for this problem and replied the mail of Stanislav on the bluez-devel list. It's up to Marcel to put the patch upstream. Not quite sure if it was intended to avoid changing the mode of the bluetooth interface if the device is in mode "off" - or not. At least this is the way how it's implement in the kdebluetooth-dbus-integration rewrite. The patch is against latest CVS revision. I will provide a fixed version of bluez-gnome in my oSBS home project ASAP. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 dgollub@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEW ------- Comment #26 from dgollub@novell.com 2007-04-30 14:30 MST ------- JFYI, fixed packages of bluez-gnome for 10.2 and Factory http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/dgollub/ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 ------- Comment #27 from casualprogrammer@yahoo.com 2007-04-30 22:51 MST ------- Sounds good, thank you. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 sbrabec@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED ------- Comment #28 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-05-04 06:36 MST ------- Another fix. The same function, different GUI: http://pack.suse.cz/sbrabec/bug226137/bluez-gnome/10.2-i386/ http://pack.suse.cz/sbrabec/bug226137/bluez-gnome/10.2-x86_64/ Please test, whether it is sufficient with 10.2 installed out of the box and decide, which GUI is better. Upstream reference: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=1177946201.5443.59.camel%40hammer.suse.cz&forum_name=bluez-devel -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 dgollub@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |sbrabec@novell.com ------- Comment #29 from dgollub@novell.com 2007-05-04 06:46 MST ------- Regarding the upstream discussion off mode should never be used on a desktop system. I tried to reproduce the way to set the bluetooth dongle into "off" mode, without using apitest or switching to mode "off" via D-Bus. Could you give me a hint how to reproduce this? Is is an internal bluetooth device of a laptop? Is it in mode "off" if you use the switch of the laptop? If it's in "off" mode by default then this seams to be another bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 sbrabec@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|sbrabec@novell.com | ------- Comment #30 from sbrabec@novell.com 2007-05-04 07:46 MST ------- On fresh installation of OpenSUSE 10.2 the default Bluetooth mode was "off". On my both systems it was an USB Bluetooth dongle on a desktop system (not laptop). I do not remember, whether the dongle was connected during the installation, but at least for one machine I guess so. Using "yast2 bluetooth" did not help, at least not after login to GNOME, independently on what I clicked there. And even if "off" mode should never be used by the desktop and applet was not intended to allow to set "off" mode, then the applet should be able at least to switch from the "off" mode, e. g. by not shading the radio button out. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137 jpr@novell.com changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |crivera@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team- |jberkman@novell.com |gnome@forge.provo.novell.com| Status|ASSIGNED |NEW -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137#c31 --- Comment #31 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2007-06-22 05:41:40 MST --- I submitted patched applet with ability to leave Off mode to Factory, GNOME:UNSTABLE and GNOME:STABLE (this version is 10.2 compatible). The rest must come from Bluetooth stack. I think, that at least for battery powered devices Off mode can be useful. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137#c32 --- Comment #32 from Daniel Gollub <dgollub@novell.com> 2007-06-22 10:11:31 MST --- Btw. is bluez-utils and bluez-gnome in the Gnome pattern? I could reproduce the "off" mode problem on a machine with a default Gnome desktop.. there was no bluez-utils installed when the bluetooth dongle got plugged in for the first time. After i installted the bluez-utils the dongle was - i checked the mode of the bluetooth dongle -> off. So i guess it has something to do if the device got plugged and the bluez-utils are not installed. Thats could be also the reason why i was never able to reproduce the problem with any dongle. In KDE bluez-utils is in the default pattern .. and the SUSE plugger ask for starting the YaST Bluetooth module for setting up the bluetooth service. It might be true that it has something to do with the bluetooth subsystem... Regarding your off mode patch ... i doubt that this will get upstream anytime. I don't know about the level of power consumption of a bluetooth dongle which is in connectable/discoverable mode. But even if it's in "off" mode and connected to an USB host controller ... the USB host controller will be active and waste some battery life time. So if you want to avoid power consumption of a bluetooth interface. Unplug it or switch it off (functions keys, switch, soldering iron, ...) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137#c33 JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|jberkman@novell.com |coolo@novell.com --- Comment #33 from JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> 2007-10-31 13:05:18 MST --- To finish this off, coolo please add bluez-gnome to the default install for GNOME in 11.0. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=226137#c34 Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #34 from Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> 2007-11-07 03:21:21 MST --- done (it was already present in laptop selection) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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