[Bug 471320] New: No way to avoid probing video
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 Summary: No way to avoid probing video Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.1 Version: Final Platform: i686 OS/Version: openSUSE 11.1 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: DanChristian65@gmail.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: --- User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120121 Firefox/3.0.5 During the first boot setup, in the hardware configuration; there is no way to avoid video probing. You get a dialog that says it is about to probe video modes; with a count down and two buttons: OK, stop. If you click stop, you're stuck. The dialog doesn't go away. You can't click on "skip configuration" or "abort" because the dialog has the focus, and there is no way to close it. There is no way to skip this step (which locks up my system). You can only re-boot, which puts you back into the first boot configuration. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Get to the video probing step during first boot 2.Click on "stop" before the timer counts down 3.Try to get out of it. you can't. Actual Results: You can only click OK, which may then lock up your system. Expected Results: I'd be able to skip video probing and finish the rest of the hardware configuration. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |yast2-maintainers@suse.de |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 Jiri Srain <jsrain@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |jdsn@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 User jdsn@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320#c1 J. Daniel Schmidt <jdsn@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |sndirsch@novell.com Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #1 from J. Daniel Schmidt <jdsn@novell.com> 2009-03-10 09:17:26 MST --- This notification window with the countdown is not meant to be cancelled. Pressing the "stop" button will just stop the countdown, that's why it is called "stop" and not "cancel". The countdown is there to let the user read the message, and to automatically continue with the installation if nobody is watching (the message just says, that the screen may flicker). A user may even stop the contdown, change to a console, downlod drivers or change anything else on the system and then proceed with the installation. Skipping the video probing is pointless as it will leave you with a broken X configuration. If the probing fails, this is a bug. Then please open a new bug report with more details and log files. For details see: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 User DanChristian65@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320#c2 Dan Christian <DanChristian65@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #2 from Dan Christian <DanChristian65@gmail.com> 2009-03-10 09:54:28 MST --- 1) Every other screen gives you the option to skip or go back. This screen doesn't. The UI should be consistent. 2) The debugging steps you describe require expert knowledge, and they are doubly hard because the system never finished installing. 3) A broken X config still gives me a usable (albeit text) system. I could pull in an old config or update driver without worrying that the install system is going to wipe everything I try. As it is, you just never finish install. The obvious next step is not to file a bug (that you won't look at for months and then close without doing a damn thing), but to switch distros. If I switch away from suse, do you really thing I'll ever come back? All you need to do to fix this is to have stop return focus to the main screen (where "back" and "skip" can be used). -Dan -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 User jdsn@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320#c3 J. Daniel Schmidt <jdsn@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #3 from J. Daniel Schmidt <jdsn@novell.com> 2009-03-10 11:37:54 MST --- (In reply to comment #2)
1) Every other screen gives you the option to skip or go back. This screen doesn't. The UI should be consistent.
This proposal screen works exactly like every other proposal. First each module does its probing and a summary is presented. Then the user can change the settings and step back and forth. And speaking of consistency: this timeout message popup is used in various places in YaST and they all behave the same. It would brake consistency to change this single one.
2) The debugging steps you describe require expert knowledge, and they are doubly hard because the system never finished installing.
They were meant as a comment for you and not as a workaround for a default user.
Let me cite you: "The debugging steps you describe require expert knowlege."
As it is, you just never finish install.
Why? Watch the countdown and wait until the probing is finished or just press the "Ok" button, then the probing will start immediately.
All you need to do to fix this is to have stop return focus to the main screen (where "back" and "skip" can be used).
Again, the probing is not meant to be skipped for the given reason. If you encountered a bug with the probing please report the details here. The timeout message shown was added to inform the user that the screen may flicker and that he doesn't have to worry. Find the details for this change in bug #327604. Until now I could not find any bug description in this report.
So, why did you file this bug report in the first place, if do not believe that we look at valid bug reports. Honestly, this bug is most likely to become such a bug that I will no longer look at, right, but only due to the lack of a report of a failure. All you describe is working as expected. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |yast2-maintainers@suse.de |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 Jiri Srain <jsrain@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |jdsn@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 User jdsn@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320#c1 J. Daniel Schmidt <jdsn@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED CC| |sndirsch@novell.com Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #1 from J. Daniel Schmidt <jdsn@novell.com> 2009-03-10 09:17:26 MST --- This notification window with the countdown is not meant to be cancelled. Pressing the "stop" button will just stop the countdown, that's why it is called "stop" and not "cancel". The countdown is there to let the user read the message, and to automatically continue with the installation if nobody is watching (the message just says, that the screen may flicker). A user may even stop the contdown, change to a console, downlod drivers or change anything else on the system and then proceed with the installation. Skipping the video probing is pointless as it will leave you with a broken X configuration. If the probing fails, this is a bug. Then please open a new bug report with more details and log files. For details see: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 User DanChristian65@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320#c2 Dan Christian <DanChristian65@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #2 from Dan Christian <DanChristian65@gmail.com> 2009-03-10 09:54:28 MST --- 1) Every other screen gives you the option to skip or go back. This screen doesn't. The UI should be consistent. 2) The debugging steps you describe require expert knowledge, and they are doubly hard because the system never finished installing. 3) A broken X config still gives me a usable (albeit text) system. I could pull in an old config or update driver without worrying that the install system is going to wipe everything I try. As it is, you just never finish install. The obvious next step is not to file a bug (that you won't look at for months and then close without doing a damn thing), but to switch distros. If I switch away from suse, do you really thing I'll ever come back? All you need to do to fix this is to have stop return focus to the main screen (where "back" and "skip" can be used). -Dan -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320 User jdsn@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471320#c3 J. Daniel Schmidt <jdsn@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #3 from J. Daniel Schmidt <jdsn@novell.com> 2009-03-10 11:37:54 MST --- (In reply to comment #2)
1) Every other screen gives you the option to skip or go back. This screen doesn't. The UI should be consistent.
This proposal screen works exactly like every other proposal. First each module does its probing and a summary is presented. Then the user can change the settings and step back and forth. And speaking of consistency: this timeout message popup is used in various places in YaST and they all behave the same. It would brake consistency to change this single one.
2) The debugging steps you describe require expert knowledge, and they are doubly hard because the system never finished installing.
They were meant as a comment for you and not as a workaround for a default user.
Let me cite you: "The debugging steps you describe require expert knowlege."
As it is, you just never finish install.
Why? Watch the countdown and wait until the probing is finished or just press the "Ok" button, then the probing will start immediately.
All you need to do to fix this is to have stop return focus to the main screen (where "back" and "skip" can be used).
Again, the probing is not meant to be skipped for the given reason. If you encountered a bug with the probing please report the details here. The timeout message shown was added to inform the user that the screen may flicker and that he doesn't have to worry. Find the details for this change in bug #327604. Until now I could not find any bug description in this report.
So, why did you file this bug report in the first place, if do not believe that we look at valid bug reports. Honestly, this bug is most likely to become such a bug that I will no longer look at, right, but only due to the lack of a report of a failure. All you describe is working as expected. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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