https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User dmueller@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c2 Dirk Mueller changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|dmueller@novell.com | --- Comment #2 from Dirk Mueller 2008-02-13 08:25:44 MST --- it uses pg_config --libs which comes with postgresql-devel -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User max@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c4 --- Comment #4 from Reinhard Max 2008-02-14 03:06:46 MST --- (In reply to comment #3 from Cristian Rodriguez)

at least postgresql-devel should Require glibc-devel openssl-devel

[...]/usr/include/pgsql/internal/libpq-int.h:#include [...]/usr/include/pgsql/internal/libpq-int.h:#include

* libpq-int.h * This file contains internal definitions meant to be used only by * the frontend libpq library, not by applications that call it. I don't think an RPM needs to cater for that situation. Those who are using such internal APIs (if anybody is using it at all) probably also know how to install an additional devel package.

and pg_config --libs should return only the needed libraries.

Well, the problem here is, that PostgreSQL's configure script collects only one list of needed libs, which includes stuff like libreadline which is only needed by the command line front end, but neither by the backend nor by the client library. Maybe I should just remove pg_config from the package, or at least empty the LIBS variable, as it is not really needed for linking stuff against the dynamic libpq and we don't ship a static version of it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User max@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c6 --- Comment #6 from Reinhard Max 2008-04-07 04:51:32 MST --- Will do it this week, when finishing the PostgreSQL 8.3 packages. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User dmueller@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c8 --- Comment #8 from Dirk Mueller 2008-04-13 06:48:02 MST --- issue is still not fixed, now it even requires libxslt-devel which has also not been added to the requires -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User dmueller@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c10 Dirk Mueller changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Comment #10 from Dirk Mueller 2008-04-17 10:05:55 MST --- details please.. a) http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/app-pgconfig.html "The pg_config utility prints configuration parameters of the currently installed version of PostgreSQL. It is intended, for example, to be used by software packages that want to interface to PostgreSQL to facilitate finding the required header files and libraries." b) regarding comment 4) you do ship a static vresion of it rpm -ql postgresql-devel | grep libpq.a /usr/lib/libpq.a c) if pg_config is not there, it will not use it and then succeed as well. however, if pg_config is there, it will use and trust the output. if the output is wrong (like here), it should be fixed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User max@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c12 Reinhard Max changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |poeml@novell.com --- Comment #12 from Reinhard Max 2008-06-16 03:22:49 MDT --- *** Bug 400412 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=400412 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User poeml@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c14 Peter Poeml changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #14 from Peter Poeml 2008-06-16 03:43:26 MDT --- Okay, I read it now. So you basically say, that every software which tries to use pg_config --libs is broken, and they should not use pg_config at all? We are a distributor, we should cater for that. The fact that other projects *do* use pg_config indicates that this works somehow, just not in our evironment. For example, when I build Apache, I run into this problem. It is hardly imaginable that Apache can't be built anywhere... ;) I have an example here for how I deal with that situation (or a situation that I believe is similar) in the Apache Portable runtime: % apr-1-config --libs -lrt -lcrypt -lpthread -ldl % apu-1-config --libs -lldap -llber -ldb-4.3 -lexpat If I wouldn't have fixed it, apu-1-config would list mysql library, postgresql, sqlite in addition. Although that functionality lives in separate DSO modules which are not used normally. It would be useless to link against mysql and postgresql libs in every application using apr or apr-util. Could you not just ditch that stuff from pg_config? Or maybe remove it... because in a build system I have no way of removing it... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User poeml@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c16 Peter Poeml changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #16 from Peter Poeml 2008-06-16 04:30:06 MDT ---

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The fact that other projects *do* use pg_config indicates that this works somehow, just not in our evironment.

The fact that it works somehow somewhere doesn't mean it is correct.

It worked up to 10.3 -- in 11.0 is broken. 11.0 is more "correct"? What about libpgport -- why was it removed in 11.0? In 10.3 it's there. Wny does pg_config report it in --libs anyway? Is that not a bug? What should other projects to do, if they write autoconf macros that compile little test programs for checking stuff? The building of those little test programs fails because they use pg_config --libs to build them, which seems to be the logical thing to do, or not? It just doesn't work with 11.0 because libpgport is missing. I suppose projects _need_ to use pg_config --libs to compile such test programs, because the libs will be needed in cases of static linkage. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User max@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c18 Reinhard Max changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #18 from Reinhard Max 2008-06-16 08:22:10 MDT --- (In reply to comment #16 from Peter Poeml)

It worked up to 10.3 -- in 11.0 is broken.

It was wrong in 10.3 and before already, just "happened to work".

11.0 is more "correct"?

Yes, because it prevents incorrect usage of "pg_config --libs".

What about libpgport -- why was it removed in 11.0? In 10.3 it's there.

Because it is a) not needed and b) I removed all static libs from the postgresql packages for 11.0.

Wny does pg_config report it in --libs anyway?

Because it is linked in to the postgresql backend.

Is that not a bug?

No, because (I am repeating myself) "pg_config --libs" is not intended to be used by client programs for linking against libpq.

What should other projects to do, if they write autoconf macros that compile little test programs for checking stuff?

They can do whatever they want as long as they don't mistakenly use "pg_config --libs" for unintended purposes. What's wrong with using "AC_CHECK_LIB([pq], [PQconnectdb])" in autoconf as I suggested above?

The building of those little test programs fails because they use pg_config --libs to build them, which seems to be the logical thing to do, or not?

No, because (again) "pg_config --libs" only tells you how the backend executable was linked together, not more and not less.

I suppose projects _need_ to use pg_config --libs to compile such test programs, because the libs will be needed in cases of static linkage.

We don't ship a static version of libpq, so static linkage is not a problem we need to cater for. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431 User max@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=361431#c20 Reinhard Max changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |joe@croftj.net --- Comment #20 from Reinhard Max 2008-11-28 04:27:36 MST --- *** Bug 449810 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449810 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.