https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 Andreas Jaeger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mmarek@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User oneukum@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c3 Oliver Neukum changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |oneukum@novell.com Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|oneukum@novell.com | --- Comment #3 from Oliver Neukum 2008-11-28 04:40:31 MST --- It's the same issue. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User mmarek@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c4 Michal Marek changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|oneukum@novell.com |mmarek@novell.com Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment #4 from Michal Marek 2008-12-02 03:38:57 MST --- My understanding is that this needs to be worked around in modprobe.conf. I'm just waiting for a mkinitrd that can cope better with the install commands in modprobe. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User mmarek@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c5 Michal Marek changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bwalle@novell.com Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |bwalle@novell.com --- Comment #5 from Michal Marek 2008-12-03 07:21:29 MST --- Adding mkinitrd maintainer. Bernhard - we need to make {i,u}hci-hcd depend on ehci-hcd by adding these two lines to modprobe.conf: install uhci-hcd /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install uhci-hcd install ohci-hcd /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ohci-hcd However, this is not going to work with current mkinitrd - the install lines will be filtered out. Any idea how fix this /somehow cleanly/? mkinitrd could add those lines again, but that would be a workaround for a workaround... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User bwalle@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c7 --- Comment #7 from Bernhard Walle 2008-12-03 08:33:21 MST --- We add install lines again. What about a generic # SUSE INITRD: foo REQUIRES bar line that could be easily parsed by mkinitrd to have additional modules in the initrd. Yes, that's somewhat 'proprietary', but it doesn't break something and we don't have to update mkinitrd every time someone thinks that we need additional dependencies that cannot be expressed by module symbols. install lines seems to become somewhat modern that days. :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User mmarek@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c9 --- Comment #9 from Michal Marek 2008-12-03 08:45:01 MST --- (In reply to comment #7 from Bernhard Walle)

We add install lines again.

What about a generic

# SUSE INITRD: foo REQUIRES bar

If you are going to implement that, why not. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User mmarek@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c11 Michal Marek changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |coolo@novell.com --- Comment #11 from Michal Marek 2008-12-04 07:28:43 MST --- Fixed modprobe.conf in Factory. Coolo, do you want this (and the mkinitrd change) in 11.1? Or via an online update? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User tvrtko@ursulin.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c13 Tvrtko Ursulin changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | --- Comment #13 from Tvrtko Ursulin 2008-12-04 11:53:12 MST --- "Online update only" means post release? It is not clear to me (from above discussion) whether until then we get full USB 2.0 speed or not? If not then rather than shipping with a serious performance issue (just to release an update effectively immediately?) I would rather delay the product and have it shipped in a better shape. Also, from what is is worth, I don't really think dependency data in comments is a good and robust solution. Why the whole problem with initrd and modprobe.conf if I may ask? It would make most sense if initrd would use modprobe.conf in the same way "full system" does. Single point of configuration, single rules, single behaviour. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User tvrtko@ursulin.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c15 --- Comment #15 from Tvrtko Ursulin 2008-12-04 13:00:37 MST --- (In reply to comment #14 from Bernhard Walle)

(In reply to comment #13 from Tvrtko Ursulin)

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"Online update only" means post release? It is not clear to me (from above discussion) whether until then we get full USB 2.0 speed or not? If not then rather than shipping with a serious performance issue (just to release an update effectively immediately?) I would rather delay the product and have it shipped in a better shape.

And in the end we will never ship. Because there will be always a bug that causes the delay. But I can only give recommendations. The decision will be made by the project manager (Stephan Kulow).

This is still under the assumption that with this setup we don't get USB 2.0 full speed? I wanted to check that myself but found out my external HDD does not work any more (raised another bug about that) so I don't know. But I would be surprised because that would mean no one tested the betas with USB 2.0. I hoped there are more early adopters than that... But my point is that I don't think it is that much less risky to push an update after the release if it is so quickly after that it still won't get wide testing coverage. If it's broken you still break a lot of systems (except those who don't update) and the only way you can get wider testing is to push it in the wild (slight assumption here again). Think of the bad press - openSUSE 11.1 is out but USB 2.0 does not work? So what's another RC.. make it done when it's ready.

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Also, from what is is worth, I don't really think dependency data in comments is a good and robust solution. Why the whole problem with initrd and modprobe.conf if I may ask? It would make most sense if initrd would use modprobe.conf in the same way "full system" does. Single point of configuration, single rules, single behaviour.

We use the same configuration. But we need to decide which programs and modules we include in initrd (or do you think we should include the hole hard disk in initrd). There are four options

1) Hard-code such things in initrd. 2) Use the comments I implemented. 3) Express dependencies not in install lines but with an additional mechanism (which may be done for 11.2). 4) Try to parse the install lines. That is error-prone. I don't want that.

I used (2). Point.

I don't think we should put everything into initrd, just that there must be a better way than the one chosen, because it is redundant, and that is usually a bad sign. I was thinking about teaching modprobe to dump desired information and now I see what you mean with not wanting to parse install lines, they seem to be shell code snipets. Maybe extending modprobe to support more verbose operation so it prints out what modules would it load so you can do something like: # modprobe -v -n --show-insmod ohci_hcd WOULD-INSMOD: usbcore.ko install ohci_hcd /sbin/modprobe ehci_hcd WOULD-INSMOD: ehci_hcd.ko WOULD-INSMOD: ohci_hcd.ko Or some other special output formatting.. I see that this could work, no? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User mmarek@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c17 --- Comment #17 from Michal Marek 2008-12-05 02:25:47 MST --- (In reply to comment #16 from Bernhard Walle)

(In reply to comment #15 from Tvrtko Ursulin)

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Maybe extending modprobe to support more verbose operation so it prints out what modules would it load so you can do something like:

In last RCs, sure. ... But I have no problem when you work upstream with module-init-tools authors to extend modprobe. Any help is appreciated there!

FYI - we do plan to fix this better, see bug 450411. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User oneukum@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c19 --- Comment #19 from Oliver Neukum 2008-12-08 00:12:27 MST --- It usually works. Not always. A second issue are filesystems. If you have your rootfs on usb and the load of ehci switches it to high speed, you'll have a disconnect of it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User udo1@udo.hu added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c21 Udo Attila Fischer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |udo1@udo.hu Version|RC 1 |Final --- Comment #21 from Udo Attila Fischer 2009-02-19 10:00:02 MST --- In the final version the bug still exist! I change the Version to Final... By dmesg: netfront: Initialising virtual ethernet driver. udevd version 128 started usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs usbcore: registered new interface driver hub usbcore: registered new device driver usb USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: setting latency timer to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: irq 18, io base 0x000020c0 usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected Warning! ehci_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not afte r Is this loaded by boot.udev or which script at boot time? I am using following workaround: in /etc/sysconfig/kernel I have put following line: MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT="usbcore ehci_hcd" and this loads the ehci_hcd module before any 1.1 USB modules When is the bugfix planned? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853 User swamp@suse.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449853#c23 Swamp Script User changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| |maint:released:11.1:22687 --- Comment #23 from Swamp Script User 2009-02-26 07:25:59 MST --- Update released for: module-init-tools Products: openSUSE 11.1 (debug, i586, ppc, x86_64) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.