[Bug 1201852] New: mail(1) is missing any reasonable documentation
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201852
Bug ID: 1201852
Summary: mail(1) is missing any reasonable documentation
Classification: openSUSE
Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed
Version: Current
Hardware: Other
OS: Other
Status: NEW
Severity: Normal
Priority: P5 - None
Component: Network
Assignee: werner@suse.com
Reporter: mcepl@suse.com
QA Contact: qa-bugs@suse.de
Found By: ---
Blocker: ---
When I run I get just the stupid blurb from FSF about breaking the standard
Unix documentation:
stitny~$ man mail
MAIL(1) User Commands MAIL(1)
NAME
mail - manual page for mail (GNU Mailutils)
SYNOPSIS
mail [OPTION...] [address...]
DESCRIPTION
GNU mail -- the standard /bin/mail interface
REPORTING BUGS
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https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201852#c3
Adam Majer
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Adam Majer
(In reply to Adam Majer from comment #3)
There is no support for other than manpages in libalternatives, so this is out of scope. The only thing that can be done here is the manpage should be patched to refer to `info mailutils mail` instead of just generic name.
This is not correct ... on my Tumbleweed I get for
info mail
the section mail from mailutils! How this?
Yes, I see that too. It works for me as well. I even removed mailx and just have mu-mail installed and I get same infopage as before. The manpage did change to the one that Matej sees but info page still works. # info -w mail /usr/share/info/mailutils.info.gz Mateh, what do you see here? There should be 3 files as part of mailutils, # ls /usr/share/info/mailutils.info* /usr/share/info/mailutils.info-1.gz /usr/share/info/mailutils.info-2.gz /usr/share/info/mailutils.info.gz # rpm -qV mailutils no errors? But this is not configured via alts? Right? The filetriggers to update the directory are different and just create general index AFAIK.
IMHO, it's broken to refer to non-explicit names in the first place. Generic names are substitutable but actual programs are not. manpage for mailutils mail should refer to info mailutils mail. mailx manpage is much nicer.
I'm not the author nor upstream of mailutils and I'll not write manual pages for mailutils. And as told on my Tumbleweed the pointer to the subsection of mail in mailutils info pages works flawless
suse/werner> grep mail: /usr/share/info/dir * decodemail: (mailutils) decodemail. Decode MIME messages. * mail: (mailutils) mail. Send and Receive Mail. * movemail: (mailutils) movemail. Move Mail between Mailboxes.
NO idea why on Matej Tumbleweed the /usr/share/info/dir seems to be broken
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I even removed mailx and just have mu-mail installed and I get same infopage as before. The manpage did change to the one that Matej sees but info page still works.
stitny:~ # info -w mail *manpages* stitny:~ # rpm -qa mailutils\* mailutils-3.14-2.1.x86_64 stitny:~ #
# ls /usr/share/info/mailutils.info* /usr/share/info/mailutils.info-1.gz /usr/share/info/mailutils.info-2.gz /usr/share/info/mailutils.info.gz
stitny:~ # ls /usr/share/info/mailutils.info* /usr/share/info/mailutils.info-1.gz /usr/share/info/mailutils.info.gz /usr/share/info/mailutils.info-2.gz stitny:~ #
# rpm -qV mailutils
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Matej Cepl
And does /usr/share/info/dir exists?
info mailutils mail works
And if so, is this file up to date? The command
ls -lrt /usr/share/info
celkem 12816 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 70186 29.������j 2018 latex2e-es.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 15760 13.��b��e 2020 dvipng.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 193624 31.��pro 2020 latex2e-fr.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 228030 26.��led 22.10 latex2e.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 73408 9.��b��e 23.53 tlbuild.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 29547 26.��kv�� 18.46 gperf.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 32302 28.��kv�� 01.16 grep.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 6278 15.����en 00.47 dc.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 12488 15.����en 00.47 bc.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 76348 15.����en 00.47 standards.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 323869 15.����en 00.47 autoconf.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 84018 15.����en 00.47 automake.info-2.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 86522 15.����en 00.47 automake.info-1.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 3225 15.����en 00.47 automake.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 26094 15.����en 00.47 automake-history.info.gz -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 2414 15.����en 00.47 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dir
should show on the last line the file `dir'. That is had the triggerscripts of the package info ever run on your Tumbleweed? In if this had happen then the comamnd
There was ever any program installed into /usr/ outside of zypper/rpm.
grep mail: /usr/share/info/dir
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Matej Cepl
This listing looks suspicious to me. My /usr/share/info directory is far smaller but the `dir` file is far larger. It looks suspiciously small to me.
Can you attach this `dir` file here for reference?
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--- Comment #13 from Matej Cepl
Enforce deinstallation of package info
rpm -e info --nodeps
then reinstall
zypper in info
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--- Comment #15 from Matej Cepl
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a bug in info %filetriggerun scriptlet which had removed in case of an update all entries within dir top node ... after updating twice this should not happen anymore
It could be actually even my https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/openSUSE:Factory/mandoc/mandoc.... If somebody could review it and suggest a scriptlet which doesn���t run half-an-hour on every update of any manpage, I would be grateful. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #18 from Matej Cepl
For this job I use man-db.service and man-db.timer ... could also user a man-db.path but this would not catch all paths below /usr/share/man (e.g. locale paths)
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