http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c1 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-07 16:06:39 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=374313) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374313) 11.2 screenshot -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c3 --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-07 16:33:21 UTC --- Hi Stanislav, Just to clarify the problem, do tell me which of the UI elements, from two screenshots I posted, you're unhappy with. I will assume for the moment it is the one numbered 2. Indeed the versions listing is now hidden by default. That's not unlikely the qt or ncurses plugin, which put the feature one-click away (or one keystroke away) given it's not an especially widely used function. Potential solutions: a) make Versions visible by default b) memorize whether the user made it visible last season c) move it after details I'm not sure about a). Stefan Hundhammer addressed this in bug 356410. There are indeed fringe cases where you do need to select a particular version, but if you're using it too heavily, it probably is symptomatic of a UI deficiency -- which is why we have e.g. introduced the "switch installed packages to the versions in this repository" for more common use cases. I'd vote for b) and c). c) should make the feature more eye-catching, since it's no longer packed in a corner, and b) is always a good idea and could save quite some clicks for any users who may use it heavily. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c5 --- Comment #5 from Stanislav Brabec 2010-07-07 18:51:31 CEST --- I overseen that the column 2 is also a treeview with item 1 folded. Heavy need of Versions is not an UI deficiency. It is a generic problem of advanced user with multiple repositories with the same package in a different shape and a symptom of legal limitations of some packages in some repositories. Well, and I found a bug in the implementation: 1. Subscribe to Packman 2. Search for gstreamer-0_10 3. Click to Dependencies and Versions without resizing the window Actual result: GUI enters into an infinite resize loop ("dancing letters" in the window) and must be killed. Regarding the GUI: I am not sure, whether others will have the same problem with reading the GUI, but I have and also my colleague also had a problem. The tree view mixes data that are read only and Versions that contains important functionality. I was thinking about: Either - Back to a separate comobobox (your b) or - Unfold Versions by default (your a) or - Fold Details by default (similar effect as your c) or - Return back to a single column (It would also display Dependencies a bit better and fix the dead loop) or - Add pane between column 1 and 2 (It would also allow to display Dependencies a bit better) or - Add combobox in the "Version" bound together with "Size", "Repository", and maybe "Supportability" columns in the list of packages. I would probably prefer the Version combobox column in the list of packages as the best solution and a separate combobox as the second best solution, but other solutions would be OK as well (combobox column is much more complicated than one line change). Logically I imagine: select a package, then proper repository/version and finally read (and read only) information from the tree view. On the other hand, the "Space available" combobox seems to be a bit superfluous. While installing, I would care only on free space in / (and eventually /usr, /var, /etc, /srv if mounted separately). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c7 --- Comment #7 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-07 18:51:40 UTC --- (In reply to comment #5)

Well, and I found a bug in the implementation:

1. Subscribe to Packman 2. Search for gstreamer-0_10 3. Click to Dependencies and Versions without resizing the window

Actual result: GUI enters into an infinite resize loop ("dancing letters" in the window) and must be killed.

gtk scroll-window/view-port is sometimes glitchy with such height-for-width negotiations because it doesn't currently feature any formal protocol for the purpose, unlike qt or java/swing, but I never experienced a crash. I cannot reproduce yours either (Atri?). Attach your yast logs; maybe there is an error nugget in there that we can use for a work-around. http://tr.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST#I_reported_a_YaST2_bug.2C_and_now_I_am_aske... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c9 --- Comment #9 from Atri Bhattacharya 2010-07-07 21:52:40 UTC --- (In reply to comment #7)

(In reply to comment #5)

...

Well, and I found a bug in the implementation:

1. Subscribe to Packman 2. Search for gstreamer-0_10 3. Click to Dependencies and Versions without resizing the window

Actual result: GUI enters into an infinite resize loop ("dancing letters" in the window) and must be killed.

gtk scroll-window/view-port is sometimes glitchy with such height-for-width negotiations because it doesn't currently feature any formal protocol for the purpose, unlike qt or java/swing, but I never experienced a crash. I cannot reproduce yours either (Atri?).

Attach your yast logs; maybe there is an error nugget in there that we can use for a work-around.

Yes, this I can reproduce. It leads to yast2-gtk crashing. I will attach yast logs and a screenshot in a second. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c11 --- Comment #11 from Atri Bhattacharya 2010-07-07 21:56:02 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=374418) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374418) screenshot of yast2-gtk as the interface becomes unresponsive -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c13 --- Comment #13 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-09 17:07:23 UTC --- I tested this on a 11.2 system (running the 11.3 version of the gtk plugin of course). Will check it out later under the latest 11.3 build. I wonder if one can reproduce this when the "Details" box is closed. (Will test that also. And maybe try the 11.2 version of the gtk plugin under 11.3.) Btw, the glitches I mentioned in comment 7 could be reproduced in the 11.2 version of the gtk plugin, and some before that too. They were trivial things. This one needs to be addressed ASAP. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c15 --- Comment #15 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-09 17:23:22 UTC --- With regard to the case in question, Atri tells me that it's late even to get out of the door our version with the Details/Version order switched. :( -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c17 --- Comment #17 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-09 23:13:04 UTC --- (In reply to comment #16)

It's work than I thought. typo: It works worse than I thought.

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http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c19 Ricardo Cruz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|YaST2 sw_single: GTK+ GUI |sw_single (gtk): crash when |lost "Versions in |opening the Dependencies |repositories" feature |box --- Comment #19 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-09 23:36:01 UTC --- I'm appropriating this report for the crash at hand. :) UI suggestions are better discussed in the aforementioned mailing list. But if you prefer to discuss that in bugzilla, that's fine as well. Let's open a new report, and I will try to relay comments back and forward. btw: link to the mailing list thread: http://groups.google.com/group/yast2-gtk/browse_thread/thread/b729b0d14dca89... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c21 --- Comment #21 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-09 23:57:03 UTC --- Comparing gtk 2.18 to 2.20, I see little has changed in GtkViewport, ScrolledWindow, GtkTextView and GtkBox. There are some gtk structural changes (with functions now being used rather than looking up static variables), but prolly not relevant. Apparently though, 11.2 uses gtk 2.18.1, while I looked at 2.18.7, so I may have to recheck that, but I doubt there is anything relevant to be found given they are minor versions. Maybe this is not fully contained within the information bar (comment 16). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c23 Ricardo Cruz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mmeeks@novell.com --- Comment #23 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-10 00:57:01 UTC --- Michael, if you like puzzles, you may want to keep an eye on this one. :) (comment 22) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c Ricardo Cruz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|sw_single (gtk): crash when |sw_single (gtk): freeze |opening the Dependencies |when opening the |box |Dependencies box -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c26 Ricardo Cruz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |federico@novell.com --- Comment #26 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-10 11:54:48 UTC --- Reported this one to gnome-zilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624034 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c28 --- Comment #28 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-10 12:56:56 UTC --- I fix the bug (I think). Changing the wrap_mode didn't do the trick. I changed the hbox homogeneous property to false, and then set a common width to try to keep the columns in line. As an aesthetic change, got rid of the separators between the rows. Build service isn't working ATM. Will try to submit the changes later. Meanwhile, if you'd like to build the gtk plugin yourself: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST2-GTK#Download -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c30 Ricardo Cruz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #30 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-10 17:47:52 UTC --- Sent stuff to build-service. It's version 2.21.63. Also committed fix to http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/branches/SuSE-Linux-11_3-Branch/ Fixed. Would be a good idea to produce a patch out of this stuff. Please get someone to look into that. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c32 Atri Bhattacharya changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #32 from Atri Bhattacharya 2010-07-11 12:48:05 UTC --- Fixed packages at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/badshah400:/branches:/openSU... Please test. @Ricardo One thing might help focus the version box better is to remove bold fonts from the strings "Size", "License", "Installed at", and "Latest Build" in the Detail row. Do you think this would be a good idea? I can submit patches when we are agreed about this. Till the updates are released, I prefer to keep the bug open. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c34 Stanislav Brabec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED InfoProvider|sbrabec@novell.com | --- Comment #34 from Stanislav Brabec 2010-07-12 10:54:28 CEST --- Works for me as well. Also Versions seems to be more visible. Yes, change of "Size", "License", "Installed at", "Latest Build" makes sense. Also change of "Installed Version", "Available Version", "Provides" and "Requires" makes sense. I would propose change from bold to italic. And probably "Developed by" and "Packaged by" should be changed from plain to italic as well. It would make things more consistent: Level 1 title (tree title): Bold. Level 2 title (subtitle): Italic. Just another small note to the current UI: Package maintainers typically split Changelog entries to 70-80 characters long lines with indentation. In the default view with the default size, only about 50-60 characters fit to a single line. This could be improved by: - if display is large enough, default to larger window - default to smalled font in Changelog - add pane between column 1 and 2 - move Changelog as last item and use multi span over both two columns -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c36 --- Comment #36 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-12 13:48:46 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=375271) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=375271) Use italics instead of the bold font, as Stanislav suggested -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c38 --- Comment #38 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-12 14:13:29 UTC --- I requested feedback from the mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/yast2-gtk/browse_thread/thread/3673ed6f0e589a... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c40 --- Comment #40 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-12 14:22:13 UTC --- Stanislav, but what about: leftmost of 1st screenshot versus rightmost of 2nd screenshot? That is the million dollar question. :) Personally, I dislike the italic fonts for the 2nd-level headers. But that could be just because I'm not used to it. I'm used to see italics as special placeholder items (say, in an empty queue or attribute). I do see programs like Totem use italics for sub-headers (see Movies > Properties). Do you know more programs like that? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c42 --- Comment #42 from Stanislav Brabec 2010-07-12 16:40:34 CEST --- Well, I don't have a strong preference between these two. I did typography in past, and its rules would prefer italic for subtitles and plain font for contents: Both italic inside plain text and plain text inside italic are considered as empasized. But the use of italic for titles (or non-standard text) and plain font for standard text is more convenient: Long italic texts are considered as a little bit slower to read. (The reverse use (plain font for emphasizing and italic for plain text) is used in prefaces or poetry typography.) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c44 --- Comment #44 from Atri Bhattacharya 2010-07-12 18:15:29 UTC --- @Maintenance Team Please note why a version update is needed as I explained in Comment 43 above. In short, there is no other change between the distribution version and present version except bug-fixes. Hope in consideration of this, it is okay to push the version update? Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c46 Swamp Workflow Management changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| |maint:running:34512:moderat | |e --- Comment #46 from Swamp Workflow Management 2010-07-13 15:41:23 UTC --- The SWAMPID for this issue is 34512. This issue was rated as moderate. Please submit fixed packages as soon as possible. Also create a patchinfo file using this link: https://swamp.suse.de/webswamp/wf/34512 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c48 Vincent Untz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |marcus@swedcore.net --- Comment #48 from Vincent Untz 2010-07-13 20:41:39 UTC --- *** Bug 620986 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620986 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c50 --- Comment #50 from Atri Bhattacharya 2010-07-14 14:27:43 UTC --- (In reply to comment #47)

Update process started.

Be so kind and submit a patchinfo and the fixed sources against openSUSE:11.3:Update:Test

TIA

created request id 42911 for fixed sources. Please let me know if that does it. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c52 --- Comment #52 from Stanislav Brabec 2010-07-15 15:47:48 CEST --- Just another GUI hint to Versions: I wanted to upgrade a package to a different instance from a different repository and I did a mistake. What I did: - Clicked to package I want to upgrade - Clicked to Versions - Clicked to version I wanted to install - Clicked to Accept and expected that the version change will be performed Nothing happened, because I forgot to scroll down and click to Upgrade button. It is invisible with the default window size. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c54 Ricardo Cruz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |meissner@novell.com --- Comment #54 from Ricardo Cruz 2010-07-25 20:49:19 UTC --- Are we done here? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c56 Swamp Workflow Management changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|maint:running:34512:moderat |maint:running:34512:moderat |e |e maint:released:11.3:34531 --- Comment #56 from Swamp Workflow Management 2010-07-26 14:43:51 UTC --- Update released for: yast2-gtk Products: openSUSE 11.3 (debug, i586, x86_64) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c57 Atri Bhattacharya changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #57 from Atri Bhattacharya 2010-08-01 02:15:05 UTC --- Fixed by online update. Closing. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.