[Bug 620513] New: YaST2 sw_single: GTK+ GUI misses lost "Versions in repositories" feature
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c0 Summary: YaST2 sw_single: GTK+ GUI misses lost "Versions in repositories" feature Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.3 Version: RC 2 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Critical Priority: P5 - None Component: YaST2 AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: sbrabec@novell.com QAContact: jsrain@novell.com CC: mkudlvasr@novell.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- GTK+ GUI for YaST2 sw_single lacks (or very successfully hides) "Versions in repositories" feature. It was present in 11.2 GTK+ GUI (as a combobox in the bottom part of the window) and it is present in 11.3 --qt GUI (as a radiobutton selection in the bottom part of the window, tab "Versions"). Yes, you can right click -> Show column -> Repository, but you can still only see the latest version repository and nothing else. You don't see other versions, you can not change the repository you want. (And even the Show column selection itself is forgot after quit.) Even "Options -> Allow vendor change" does not change the view in any way. Yes, you can run YaST2 --qt sw_single, but average GNOME user is not aware of it. Marking the bug as critical. It is a very annoing regression that makes impossible to perform some operations by an average user. For example this is not possible to do: - Select package from a particular repository. (Required while installing version sensitive library together with an application.) - Change a package from another repository. (Required while installing full versions of codecs.) - Revert update back to the package from the installation medium. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt |ovo.novell.com | Summary|YaST2 sw_single: GTK+ GUI |YaST2 sw_single: GTK+ GUI |misses lost "Versions in |lost "Versions in |repositories" feature |repositories" feature -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c1 --- Comment #1 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-07 16:06:39 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=374313) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374313) 11.2 screenshot -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c2 --- Comment #2 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-07 16:07:03 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=374314) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374314) 11.3 screenshot -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c3 --- Comment #3 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-07 16:33:21 UTC --- Hi Stanislav, Just to clarify the problem, do tell me which of the UI elements, from two screenshots I posted, you're unhappy with. I will assume for the moment it is the one numbered 2. Indeed the versions listing is now hidden by default. That's not unlikely the qt or ncurses plugin, which put the feature one-click away (or one keystroke away) given it's not an especially widely used function. Potential solutions: a) make Versions visible by default b) memorize whether the user made it visible last season c) move it after details I'm not sure about a). Stefan Hundhammer addressed this in bug 356410. There are indeed fringe cases where you do need to select a particular version, but if you're using it too heavily, it probably is symptomatic of a UI deficiency -- which is why we have e.g. introduced the "switch installed packages to the versions in this repository" for more common use cases. I'd vote for b) and c). c) should make the feature more eye-catching, since it's no longer packed in a corner, and b) is always a good idea and could save quite some clicks for any users who may use it heavily. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c4 --- Comment #4 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-07 16:38:39 UTC --- Btw, sorry if I haven't contacted you wrt the 11.3 UI design. I have contacted dozens of bug reports and others who have shown interest about the UI. I may have missed people. But going forward, if you'd like to accompany any on-going discussion, feel free to subscribe at http://groups.google.com/group/yast2-gtk Posting bug reports is also fine of course. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c5 --- Comment #5 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2010-07-07 18:51:31 CEST --- I overseen that the column 2 is also a treeview with item 1 folded. Heavy need of Versions is not an UI deficiency. It is a generic problem of advanced user with multiple repositories with the same package in a different shape and a symptom of legal limitations of some packages in some repositories. Well, and I found a bug in the implementation: 1. Subscribe to Packman 2. Search for gstreamer-0_10 3. Click to Dependencies and Versions without resizing the window Actual result: GUI enters into an infinite resize loop ("dancing letters" in the window) and must be killed. Regarding the GUI: I am not sure, whether others will have the same problem with reading the GUI, but I have and also my colleague also had a problem. The tree view mixes data that are read only and Versions that contains important functionality. I was thinking about: Either - Back to a separate comobobox (your b) or - Unfold Versions by default (your a) or - Fold Details by default (similar effect as your c) or - Return back to a single column (It would also display Dependencies a bit better and fix the dead loop) or - Add pane between column 1 and 2 (It would also allow to display Dependencies a bit better) or - Add combobox in the "Version" bound together with "Size", "Repository", and maybe "Supportability" columns in the list of packages. I would probably prefer the Version combobox column in the list of packages as the best solution and a separate combobox as the second best solution, but other solutions would be OK as well (combobox column is much more complicated than one line change). Logically I imagine: select a package, then proper repository/version and finally read (and read only) information from the tree view. On the other hand, the "Space available" combobox seems to be a bit superfluous. While installing, I would care only on free space in / (and eventually /usr, /var, /etc, /srv if mounted separately). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c6 --- Comment #6 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2010-07-07 19:13:05 CEST --- Created an attachment (id=374346) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374346) my idea of GUI Here is my raw idea of GUI I was thinking on. The combobox should surely include the repository (surely after click and should display it directly if Show column->Repository is selected). Maybe the combobox can be available for all items, if is does not slow down the GUI. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c7 --- Comment #7 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-07 18:51:40 UTC --- (In reply to comment #5)
Well, and I found a bug in the implementation:
1. Subscribe to Packman 2. Search for gstreamer-0_10 3. Click to Dependencies and Versions without resizing the window
Actual result: GUI enters into an infinite resize loop ("dancing letters" in the window) and must be killed.
gtk scroll-window/view-port is sometimes glitchy with such height-for-width negotiations because it doesn't currently feature any formal protocol for the purpose, unlike qt or java/swing, but I never experienced a crash. I cannot reproduce yours either (Atri?). Attach your yast logs; maybe there is an error nugget in there that we can use for a work-around. http://tr.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST#I_reported_a_YaST2_bug.2C_and_now_I_am_aske... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c8 --- Comment #8 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-07 19:16:16 UTC --- Those are quite some drastic changes. Opened a thread in the mailing list to see what others have to say on the topic: http://groups.google.com/group/yast2-gtk/browse_thread/thread/b729b0d14dca89... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c9 --- Comment #9 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-07 21:52:40 UTC --- (In reply to comment #7)
(In reply to comment #5)
Well, and I found a bug in the implementation:
1. Subscribe to Packman 2. Search for gstreamer-0_10 3. Click to Dependencies and Versions without resizing the window
Actual result: GUI enters into an infinite resize loop ("dancing letters" in the window) and must be killed.
gtk scroll-window/view-port is sometimes glitchy with such height-for-width negotiations because it doesn't currently feature any formal protocol for the purpose, unlike qt or java/swing, but I never experienced a crash. I cannot reproduce yours either (Atri?).
Attach your yast logs; maybe there is an error nugget in there that we can use for a work-around.
Yes, this I can reproduce. It leads to yast2-gtk crashing. I will attach yast logs and a screenshot in a second. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c10 --- Comment #10 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-07 21:53:41 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=374416) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374416) YaST logs -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c11 --- Comment #11 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-07 21:56:02 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=374418) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374418) screenshot of yast2-gtk as the interface becomes unresponsive -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c12 --- Comment #12 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2010-07-08 15:38:01 CEST --- Created an attachment (id=374583) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374583) gdb log file For me it does not crash but only enters to an infinite loop. Here is a gdb log created by several interruptions during the inifinite loop. With a bit of luck it may help to catch the place where it is looping. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c13 --- Comment #13 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 17:07:23 UTC --- I tested this on a 11.2 system (running the 11.3 version of the gtk plugin of course). Will check it out later under the latest 11.3 build. I wonder if one can reproduce this when the "Details" box is closed. (Will test that also. And maybe try the 11.2 version of the gtk plugin under 11.3.) Btw, the glitches I mentioned in comment 7 could be reproduced in the 11.2 version of the gtk plugin, and some before that too. They were trivial things. This one needs to be addressed ASAP. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c14 --- Comment #14 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 17:18:34 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=374961) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=374961) Test case v1 Guys, can you play a little with this test-case? (write something long and resize the window and such) Here, under Ubuntu (with a pretty recent gtk version), I couldn't make it non-responsive, only produce glitches. Can you guys over 11.3? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c15 --- Comment #15 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 17:23:22 UTC --- With regard to the case in question, Atri tells me that it's late even to get out of the door our version with the Details/Version order switched. :( -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c16 --- Comment #16 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 23:11:41 UTC --- Okay, tried the latest build. It's work than I thought. The thing crashes left and right. Experimented with bigger fonts under 11.2 (I use much smaller fonts than typical), and still couldn't reproduce it there. Anyway, tried my test case (an improved version), but couldn't get the thing to crash. That could mean the problem isn't fully contained within the information pane. Gtk version of the Ubuntu over my laptop and the opensuse RC is the same (2.20.1), so I will be building up the test case as I go. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c17 --- Comment #17 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 23:13:04 UTC --- (In reply to comment #16)
It's work than I thought. typo: It works worse than I thought.
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http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c18 --- Comment #18 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 23:31:46 UTC --- Oh, I almost forgot to report on one interesting result. As I suspected (comment 13), if you close the details box, then it will not crash. I will have to take some time to model in my head how gtk parent and children are negotiating the optimal size to be dedicated to the children. Anyway, it seems clear that one possible solution is to just set a fixed width to the Details/Versions side of the information bar. I still very much want to get a reproducible test-case, which would be nice for gtk guys too. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c19 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|YaST2 sw_single: GTK+ GUI |sw_single (gtk): crash when |lost "Versions in |opening the Dependencies |repositories" feature |box --- Comment #19 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 23:36:01 UTC --- I'm appropriating this report for the crash at hand. :) UI suggestions are better discussed in the aforementioned mailing list. But if you prefer to discuss that in bugzilla, that's fine as well. Let's open a new report, and I will try to relay comments back and forward. btw: link to the mailing list thread: http://groups.google.com/group/yast2-gtk/browse_thread/thread/b729b0d14dca89... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c20 --- Comment #20 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 23:46:12 UTC --- A possible fix may also be to pass a GTK_POLICY_NEVER (never show a horizontal scrollbar). This would cut a lot of the negations... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c21 --- Comment #21 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-09 23:57:03 UTC --- Comparing gtk 2.18 to 2.20, I see little has changed in GtkViewport, ScrolledWindow, GtkTextView and GtkBox. There are some gtk structural changes (with functions now being used rather than looking up static variables), but prolly not relevant. Apparently though, 11.2 uses gtk 2.18.1, while I looked at 2.18.7, so I may have to recheck that, but I doubt there is anything relevant to be found given they are minor versions. Maybe this is not fully contained within the information bar (comment 16). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c22 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #374961|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #22 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 00:55:34 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=375033) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=375033) Test case v2 I added more stuff to the test case. After playing with it for quite some time, I couldn't reproduce the freeze in my Ubuntu laptop. The damn test case is, for our purposes, identical to the UI. Intrigued, I tried the 11.3 RC2 live-cd in a PC (no cd drive in my laptop, and virtualbox is broken), ssh-ed it, and, alleluia, it freezes with little effort. I will have now to work the other way around, and deconstruct the test case. But it's pretty curious why the different results. Both systems use the same gtk version (comment 16). I can only fathom this is causes by some opensuse patch to gtk. It's also possible I botched the testing -- guys, do try the test case in your machines. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c23 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mmeeks@novell.com --- Comment #23 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 00:57:01 UTC --- Michael, if you like puzzles, you may want to keep an eye on this one. :) (comment 22) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c24 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #375033|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #24 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 11:31:11 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=375110) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=375110) Test case v3 This is the stripped down version of the test case. Resize the window and see it crash. I found out why the test case wasn't freezing in my Ubuntu system. One factor I didn't mention in comment 22 is of course an environmental difference, because I couldn't pin it down to any precise configuration. I remembered of disabling the 3D effects; that did the trick. Not yet sure why; maybe it just makes the bug harder to reproduce given those effects cut on a lot of the need for layout recalculation. Anyway, as you can read from the comments in the test case, I found one simple solution: view = gtk.TextView() - view.set_wrap_mode (gtk.WRAP_WORD_CHAR) + view.set_wrap_mode (gtk.WRAP_WORD) That's it. I applied some stress to the test, and that does seem to do the trick. Not incredibly odd; I guess that forces the TextView to go through some more width negotiations. But I will be checking the gtk code... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|sw_single (gtk): crash when |sw_single (gtk): freeze |opening the Dependencies |when opening the |box |Dependencies box -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c25 --- Comment #25 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 11:41:25 UTC --- Oddly enough, could reproduce the test case freeze in 11.2. Checking out gtk source code didn't suggest the wrap mode was particularly relevant, but I'd have to go through Pango code as well; that's the text engine and it does a lot of those size calculations. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c26 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |federico@novell.com --- Comment #26 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 11:54:48 UTC --- Reported this one to gnome-zilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624034 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c27 --- Comment #27 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 12:49:58 UTC --- If I resize the information pane in 11.2 sometimes I can indeed reproduce the bug. (comment 13) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c28 --- Comment #28 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 12:56:56 UTC --- I fix the bug (I think). Changing the wrap_mode didn't do the trick. I changed the hbox homogeneous property to false, and then set a common width to try to keep the columns in line. As an aesthetic change, got rid of the separators between the rows. Build service isn't working ATM. Will try to submit the changes later. Meanwhile, if you'd like to build the gtk plugin yourself: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST2-GTK#Download -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c29 --- Comment #29 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 12:59:50 UTC --- btw, I think Atri made the point we probably should avoid changing the order of the Versions/Details boxes when performing a patch update. Well, I haven't changed those back yet. I see some UI changes when I perform updates (especially to firefox I think). But do tell me if you feel that is undesirable, so I will revert that change. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c30 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #30 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-10 17:47:52 UTC --- Sent stuff to build-service. It's version 2.21.63. Also committed fix to http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/branches/SuSE-Linux-11_3-Branch/ Fixed. Would be a good idea to produce a patch out of this stuff. Please get someone to look into that. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c31 --- Comment #31 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-11 11:43:05 UTC --- I will submit the patches (already building), but do let me know if you think we are indeed doing the right thing by putting in this change:- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Wed Jul 06 20:10:00 WET 2010 - rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt - 2.21.60 - versions box not visible enough: swap position with details box (bnc#620513). According to my view, since it does look like we will be able to send in the patch very early, it might not be a bad idea to include this too. Should not be much of a problem, right? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c32 Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|CLOSED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #32 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-11 12:48:05 UTC --- Fixed packages at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/badshah400:/branches:/openSU... Please test. @Ricardo One thing might help focus the version box better is to remove bold fonts from the strings "Size", "License", "Installed at", and "Latest Build" in the Detail row. Do you think this would be a good idea? I can submit patches when we are agreed about this. Till the updates are released, I prefer to keep the bug open. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c33 Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |sbrabec@novell.com --- Comment #33 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-11 13:15:04 UTC --- Solves the yast freezing problem for me. @Stanislav Brabec Could you please test the packages from the repository above and let me know if it works for you. Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c34 Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED InfoProvider|sbrabec@novell.com | --- Comment #34 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2010-07-12 10:54:28 CEST --- Works for me as well. Also Versions seems to be more visible. Yes, change of "Size", "License", "Installed at", "Latest Build" makes sense. Also change of "Installed Version", "Available Version", "Provides" and "Requires" makes sense. I would propose change from bold to italic. And probably "Developed by" and "Packaged by" should be changed from plain to italic as well. It would make things more consistent: Level 1 title (tree title): Bold. Level 2 title (subtitle): Italic. Just another small note to the current UI: Package maintainers typically split Changelog entries to 70-80 characters long lines with indentation. In the default view with the default size, only about 50-60 characters fit to a single line. This could be improved by: - if display is large enough, default to larger window - default to smalled font in Changelog - add pane between column 1 and 2 - move Changelog as last item and use multi span over both two columns -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c35 --- Comment #35 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-12 13:47:51 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=375270) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=375270) Remove bold fonts from the details box, as Atri suggested -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c36 --- Comment #36 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-12 13:48:46 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=375271) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=375271) Use italics instead of the bold font, as Stanislav suggested -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c37 --- Comment #37 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2010-07-12 16:04:14 CEST --- My personal preferences (as used, not GUI design expert): first screenshot: leftmost snapshot looks best (i. e. no bold in level 2, but differentiate between subtitle and text) second screenstot: right screenshot looks better (i. e. no bold in level 2), however I have no preference whether subtitle should be plain and contents italic or reverse (both look well arranged). Thanks for your effort. I guess it makes sense to online update with this change for 11.3, even if GUI changes a little bit. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c38 --- Comment #38 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-12 14:13:29 UTC --- I requested feedback from the mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/yast2-gtk/browse_thread/thread/3673ed6f0e589a... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c39 --- Comment #39 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-12 14:18:33 UTC --- The right screenshot in the 2nd attachemnt (id=375271) looks the best in my opinion. Ricardo, if you can submit the latest version to YaST:Head, I can go ahead getting the online update ready. Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c40 --- Comment #40 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-12 14:22:13 UTC --- Stanislav, but what about: leftmost of 1st screenshot versus rightmost of 2nd screenshot? That is the million dollar question. :) Personally, I dislike the italic fonts for the 2nd-level headers. But that could be just because I'm not used to it. I'm used to see italics as special placeholder items (say, in an empty queue or attribute). I do see programs like Totem use italics for sub-headers (see Movies > Properties). Do you know more programs like that? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c41 --- Comment #41 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-12 14:35:23 UTC --- We won't like get much feedback from the mailing list, and given you two are in consensus, I have submitted the sub-header changes to build-service. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c42 --- Comment #42 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2010-07-12 16:40:34 CEST --- Well, I don't have a strong preference between these two. I did typography in past, and its rules would prefer italic for subtitles and plain font for contents: Both italic inside plain text and plain text inside italic are considered as empasized. But the use of italic for titles (or non-standard text) and plain font for standard text is more convenient: Long italic texts are considered as a little bit slower to read. (The reverse use (plain font for emphasizing and italic for plain text) is used in prefaces or poetry typography.) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c43 Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |maintenance@opensuse.org --- Comment #43 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-12 18:04:00 UTC --- OK. Branched package version 2.21.65 from YaST:Head in the following project. home:badshah400:branches:YaST:Head As far as I understand, the only change between versions 2.21.58 in openSUSE:11.3 and version 2.21.65 in YaST:Head is a fix of this bug and minor fix for bug 609778. So I will submit to Maintenance for version update from the distribution version (2.21.58) to present version (2.21.65). Requesting SWAMPID from the Maintenance team. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c44 --- Comment #44 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-12 18:15:29 UTC --- @Maintenance Team Please note why a version update is needed as I explained in Comment 43 above. In short, there is no other change between the distribution version and present version except bug-fixes. Hope in consideration of this, it is okay to push the version update? Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c45 Marcus Meissner <meissner@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |meissner@novell.com --- Comment #45 from Marcus Meissner <meissner@novell.com> 2010-07-13 14:31:46 UTC --- one translatable string was changed, please try to avoid that. otherwise I diffed your source and the 11.3 state and it looks acceptable to me +1 for update -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c46 Swamp Workflow Management <swamp@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard| |maint:running:34512:moderat | |e --- Comment #46 from Swamp Workflow Management <swamp@suse.com> 2010-07-13 15:41:23 UTC --- The SWAMPID for this issue is 34512. This issue was rated as moderate. Please submit fixed packages as soon as possible. Also create a patchinfo file using this link: https://swamp.suse.de/webswamp/wf/34512 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c47 Christian Dengler <cdengler@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED CC| |cdengler@novell.com InfoProvider|maintenance@opensuse.org | --- Comment #47 from Christian Dengler <cdengler@novell.com> 2010-07-13 15:44:15 UTC --- Update process started. Be so kind and submit a patchinfo and the fixed sources against openSUSE:11.3:Update:Test TIA -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c48 Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |marcus@swedcore.net --- Comment #48 from Vincent Untz <vuntz@novell.com> 2010-07-13 20:41:39 UTC --- *** Bug 620986 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620986 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c49 --- Comment #49 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-14 10:53:51 UTC --- Okay, submitted a new build: rpm version: 2.21.67 - req id: 42876 It reverts two string changes, and introduces the cosmetic fixes part of the bug, which apparently were half missing in the build submitted for update. Hold on to Atri instructions... -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c50 --- Comment #50 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-07-14 14:27:43 UTC --- (In reply to comment #47)
Update process started.
Be so kind and submit a patchinfo and the fixed sources against openSUSE:11.3:Update:Test
TIA
created request id 42911 for fixed sources. Please let me know if that does it. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c51 --- Comment #51 from Marcus Meissner <meissner@novell.com> 2010-07-14 14:33:39 UTC --- i usbmitted the patchinfo for it -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c52 --- Comment #52 from Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec@novell.com> 2010-07-15 15:47:48 CEST --- Just another GUI hint to Versions: I wanted to upgrade a package to a different instance from a different repository and I did a mistake. What I did: - Clicked to package I want to upgrade - Clicked to Versions - Clicked to version I wanted to install - Clicked to Accept and expected that the version change will be performed Nothing happened, because I forgot to scroll down and click to Upgrade button. It is invisible with the default window size. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c53 --- Comment #53 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-15 14:38:32 UTC --- In reply to comment 52: You're right. This is something we have discussed before. I don't think we had any great solutions in mind and it wasn't a big priority, so we settled to discuss it for a future version. I guess it is a bigger issue now, with the new box arrangement. Window size would mitigate the problem and might be something to address, but we should consider enforcing it with a border or a background shade around the widget, or maybe a different layout. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c54 Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |meissner@novell.com --- Comment #54 from Ricardo Cruz <rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt> 2010-07-25 20:49:19 UTC --- Are we done here? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c55 Marcus Meissner <meissner@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED InfoProvider|meissner@novell.com | --- Comment #55 from Marcus Meissner <meissner@novell.com> 2010-07-26 07:47:06 UTC --- the update is checked in and likely will be released today (after 7 days in the 11.3-test update channel). -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c56 Swamp Workflow Management <swamp@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|maint:running:34512:moderat |maint:running:34512:moderat |e |e maint:released:11.3:34531 --- Comment #56 from Swamp Workflow Management <swamp@suse.com> 2010-07-26 14:43:51 UTC --- Update released for: yast2-gtk Products: openSUSE 11.3 (debug, i586, x86_64) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c Swamp Workflow Management <swamp@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|maint:running:34512:moderat |. |e maint:released:11.3:34531 | -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c57 Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #57 from Atri Bhattacharya <badshah400@gmail.com> 2010-08-01 02:15:05 UTC --- Fixed by online update. Closing. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513 http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620513#c58 --- Comment #58 from Bernhard Wiedemann <bwiedemann@suse.com> --- This is an autogenerated message for OBS integration: This bug (620513) was mentioned in https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/42911 11.3:Test / yast2-gtk https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/42912 11.3:Test / _patchinfo: -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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