[Bug 1134420] New: Boot medium (install/Upgrade): Separate language setting from keyboard setting
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420 Bug ID: 1134420 Summary: Boot medium (install/Upgrade): Separate language setting from keyboard setting Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Distribution Version: Leap 15.1 Hardware: All OS: SUSE Other Status: NEW Severity: Enhancement Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation Assignee: yast2-maintainers@suse.de Reporter: Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de QA Contact: jsrain@suse.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- This applies to any SUSE Linux I know: If you wanted to change the keyboard layout for CD/DVD boot, you still have to change the language (which also changes the timezone). However if you only wanted to change the keyboard layout, you'll have to undo the language selection. I recommend separate boot parameters for: * keyboard layout * language * timezone So one common use case is to use English language, German timezone and German keyboard layout. (For recent releases a more comfortable method to set a proxy would be nice as well) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420#c5 --- Comment #5 from Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> --- (In reply to Sergio Lindo Mansilla from comment #2)
Created attachment 804475 [details] 01-language_menu-keyboard_section.jpg
Never seen that before! Can you explain how you git there and what release it is? Also, what's the resulting kernel commandline parameter? Anyway, can't the "Keyboard" setting be put at the start of the menu (instead of the end)? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420#c6 --- Comment #6 from Sergio Lindo Mansilla <slindomansilla@suse.com> --- (In reply to Ulrich Windl from comment #5)
Never seen that before! Can you explain how you git there and what release it is?
When you are at the boot menu, you can press F2 to open the language menu. Then, the keyboard entry appears as the last option. When you highlight "keyboard" and press enter, you get the keyboard selection menu. Well, I use openSUSE/SLE since 2 years, so I can only assure that it is there since Leap 42.2 and SLE12-SP3. But, I am sure it was there years before.
Also, what's the resulting kernel commandline parameter?
I am not sure that I understand what you ask. There is no kernel commandline parameter when selecting the keyboard. When Yast installer starts, you will have the default selected values for language, keyboard and timezone. Keep in mind that this selector at boot time is only meant to translate menu entries and to be able to type kernel parameters properly. It is NOT a selector for the installation. The selector for the installation is shown in the Yast installer.
Anyway, can't the "Keyboard" setting be put at the start of the menu (instead of the end)?
No, as Stefan mentioned before, it is optimized for the majority, not for exceptional cases. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420#c8 --- Comment #8 from Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> --- (In reply to Sergio Lindo Mansilla from comment #6)
(In reply to Ulrich Windl from comment #5) ...
Also, what's the resulting kernel commandline parameter?
I am not sure that I understand what you ask. There is no kernel commandline parameter when selecting the keyboard.
AFAIK, all menu selections eventually result in some kernel command line (or a completely different boot configuration). So my though is: Unless there are different command-line parameters for keyboard and language, you cannot select those (via boot menu). And before I forget it: The issue popped up for UEFI boot where there is no F2 key available, and the recommended method is to edit the boot command. See "The Boot Screen on Machines Equipped with UEFI" in https://www.suse.com/documentation/sled-12/book_sle_deployment/data/sec_i_ya...: "GRUB 2 for EFI on SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop does not support a boot prompt or function keys for adding boot parameters. " (In reply to Steffen Winterfeldt from comment #7)
(...) If you're interested in the exact command line the boot menu constructs, you can press 3 times Shift-F10 at the boot menu.
Hurray to undocumented magic keyboard combinations! ;-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420#c9 --- Comment #9 from Sergio Lindo Mansilla <slindomansilla@suse.com> --- (In reply to Ulrich Windl from comment #8)
And before I forget it: The issue popped up for UEFI boot where there is no F2 key available, and the recommended method is to edit the boot command. See "The Boot Screen on Machines Equipped with UEFI" in https://www.suse.com/documentation/sled-12/book_sle_deployment/data/ sec_i_yast2_startup.html: "GRUB 2 for EFI on SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop does not support a boot prompt or function keys for adding boot parameters. "
Ah, that's true. Only on legacy boot. My mistake. Where did you select it before then? === Using the magic shorcut I can see that the generated parameters after selecting Spanish language and German keyboard are: linux initrd=initrd splash=silent lang=es_ES keytable=de-nodeadkeys When selecting only German keyboard without selecting language: linux initrd=initrd splash=silent keytable=de-nodeadkeys === -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1134420#c10 --- Comment #10 from Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> --- In UEFI I had to do this (thus the request!): Boot Upgrade. Then "Abort Upgrade" to get into text-based menu. There go to the Expert Settings sub menu. Select keyboard there (I also added a proxy there). Then go back to menu, select "Installation", then "Upgrade", then "from DVD". Let it load the upgrade system again, and you have a German keyboard and a proxy. I guess it was cool in the 90ies, but will it make the kids happy today? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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