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User pth@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=362947#c4

--- Comment #4 from Philipp Thomas pth@novell.com 2009-03-02 10:53:47 MST --- Christian, go ahead and check it in into BETA and we'll see if and what it breaks. After all, that's what BETA is for :)

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User matz@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=362947#c6

Michael Matz matz@novell.com changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Michael Matz matz@novell.com 2009-03-03 06:23:36 MST --- Many of our packages use their own libtool, so the patch wouldn't make much impact I think. I think this will definitely break when dependency libraries are only static, so I'm not sure if the idea to change the installed libtool (the one used by users then) is that bright an idea.

Despite that I would indeed try this, if we only had a way of trying out. As we have no BETA anymore (the current tree called like that is totally useless) we can't, so ... well, we're screwed.

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User crrodriguez@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=362947#c8

--- Comment #8 from Cristian Rodríguez crrodriguez@novell.com 2009-03-03 06:41:01 MST --- (In reply to comment #6)

Many of our packages use their own libtool, so the patch wouldn't make much impact I think.

Yes, only packages that are libtoolized again will benefit from this..

I think this will definitely break when dependency libraries are only static.

Yes, it will.

Despite that I would indeed try this, if we only had a way of trying out.

Hrmmm.. there isnt anything other than STABLE then ?

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User rguenther@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=362947#c10

--- Comment #10 from Richard Guenther rguenther@novell.com 2009-03-03 07:03:17 MST --- Certainly not. Iff at all you want to patch the generated files instead.

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User crrodriguez@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=362947#c12

--- Comment #12 from Cristian Rodríguez crrodriguez@novell.com 2009-03-04 09:52:52 MST --- what about trying an a bit more perverse change ? ;-) making --as-needed a default option used by gcc when it calls ld, recent changes in binutils, specially this one.

head -n 7 binutils-2.19.51/ld/NEWS -*- text -*-

* --as-needed now links in a dynamic library if it satisfies undefined symbols in regular objects, or in other dynamic libraries. In the latter case the library is not linked if it is found in a DT_NEEDED entry of one of the libraries already linked.

Will likely do less software to fail, note that IM NOT asking right now to make it a permanent default, just run one full build like that and see how much stuff breaks, IMHO the results can be pretty interesting...

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User cmorve69@yahoo.es added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=362947#c13

Cristian Morales Vega cmorve69@yahoo.es changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Cristian Morales Vega cmorve69@yahoo.es 2009-04-01 07:25:53 MDT --- While it is discussed if that's done or not, if you can provide patched gcc packages every individual project could test it. Once you have convinced KDE or Gnome guys, or perhaps some "big" repo like "games", to try it and fix any problem you will have a stronger position to ask for a full Factory test.

I promise to test my home repo ;-)