[Bug 346194] New: prevent hard and dvd drive from unnecessary spinups
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 Summary: prevent hard and dvd drive from unnecessary spinups Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Final Platform: i686 OS/Version: openSUSE 10.3 Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Basesystem AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: estellnb@gmail.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: Community of Practice On a system with two hard disks the second disk /dev/sdb spins up from time to time although no file or swap partition is mounted fromout of that drive. This is ala long not good for the physics of that drive and can be very annoying because /dev/sdb is quite noisy; hdparm -Y /dev/sdb helps up to the next spinup (openSuse 10.3; smartctl already mentions a worsened spinup time; maybe because of continuing multiple unnecessary spinups). Similarely on a notebook under Suse10.1 a cdrom is spinned up multiple times during the boot process, if any is inserted, although there is no reason to access the cd during boot time (noisy, slows the boot process down). There should not be any program accessing a drive without mounted partitions. Is there any? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User estellnb@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c1 Elmar Stellnberger (AT/K) <estellnb@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High --- Comment #1 from Elmar Stellnberger (AT/K) <estellnb@gmail.com> 2007-12-15 08:16:52 MST --- As far as I can remember this problem has not existed in previous versions of OpenSuse. On a computer with 1GB of RAM powered by Suse9.3 the hard disk spinned down a few minutes after finishing the boot process and from thereon allowed to work merely out of the memory without any singleton disk access for hours. Unnecessary disk activity is not only an annoyance but does pose a major drawback to mobile computing due to increased power consumption and worsened shock resistence of disks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User gregkh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c2 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com |bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com Component|Basesystem |GNOME --- Comment #2 from Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@novell.com> 2008-02-05 10:11:41 MST --- This is a HAL issue, probing the disk. There is an option to disable it, but I don't know where. Reassigning to the GNOME developers, they know where it is... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User jpr@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c3 JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |dkukawka@novell.com --- Comment #3 from JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> 2008-02-05 12:16:00 MST --- Danny, could this be caused by probing the volume size? We use the hal libraries to do that in GNOME. Not sure if the reporter is using GNOME/KDE or no gui at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User dkukawka@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c4 Danny Kukawka <dkukawka@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dkukawka@novell.com Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|dkukawka@novell.com | --- Comment #4 from Danny Kukawka <dkukawka@novell.com> 2008-02-05 13:33:49 MST --- 1.) spin-up the CD/DVD drive is needed to get info about the media in the device and hal need to access the device regularly every few seconds to check if there is a media change, but this should not spin up the CD/DVD device. 2.) for the internal HD: hal should not access the device regulary - only at startup. You can check this by "ps aux | grep hald-addon-storage". There should be the info which devices get polled. So I would tip it's not HAL preventing the HD from spin down. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User estellnb@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c5 --- Comment #5 from Elmar Stellnberger (AT/K) <estellnb@gmail.com> 2008-02-06 09:35:12 MST --- In deed it does not seem to be HAL (internal HD):
ps aux | grep hald-addon-storage 0 grep hald-ad root 2273 0.0 0.1 3276 1136 ? S 18:12 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every 2 sec) root 2276 0.0 0.1 3276 1136 ? S 18:12 0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr1 (every 2 sec) root 4924 0.0 0.0 2988 744 pts/3 R+ 18:59 0:00 grep hald-addon-storage
grep sr /etc/fstab 0.0 2988 7 /dev/sr0 /media/dvd auto noauto,user,sync 0 0 /dev/sr1 /media/dvd2 auto noauto,user,sync 0 0
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User estellnb@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c6 --- Comment #6 from Elmar Stellnberger (AT/K) <estellnb@gmail.com> 2008-02-06 10:26:39 MST --- Alike the CD-on-boot-spinup issue still exists under Suse10.3(hal-0.5.9_git20070831-13.2). Nevertheless issuing > hdparm -y /dev/sr0 /dev/sr0: issuing standby command will persuade the drive to keep quiet. The cd does not get automounted on boot:
mount|g sr ...
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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User estellnb@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c7 --- Comment #7 from Elmar Stellnberger (AT/K) <estellnb@gmail.com> 2008-02-08 08:39:10 MST --- A singleton measurement of the auto-spindown throughout to the unmotivated-spinup delay period has yielded exactly 20 minutes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User casualprogrammer@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c8 Casual J. Programmer <casualprogrammer@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |casualprogrammer@gmail.com --- Comment #8 from Casual J. Programmer <casualprogrammer@gmail.com> 2008-06-11 10:21:29 MDT --- This bug hasn't even been assigned yet, can someone please take it on or close if resolved ? No activity for 4 month, doesn't exactly look like P2 to me.. If no activity wizhin 21 days, will close as NORESPONSE, feel free to reopen if necessary. Thanks for reporting ! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User casualprogrammer@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c9 Casual J. Programmer <casualprogrammer@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |NORESPONSE --- Comment #9 from Casual J. Programmer <casualprogrammer@gmail.com> 2009-01-14 10:00:38 MST --- This thing is definitely dead :-( Closing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194 User estellnb@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346194#c10 Elmar Stellnberger ATK <estellnb@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|NORESPONSE | --- Comment #10 from Elmar Stellnberger ATK <estellnb@gmail.com> 2009-03-12 10:41:05 MST --- Why not revitalize this issue. It applies to new eSATA hard disks as well. Even if lsof does not display anything the drive will spin up after a while as long as it is mounted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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