[Bug 384525] New: Buttons and order wrong on installation confirmation dialogue
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=384525 Summary: Buttons and order wrong on installation confirmation dialogue Product: openSUSE 11.0 Version: Factory Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Minor Priority: P5 - None Component: YaST2 AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: benji@opensuse.org QAContact: jsrain@novell.com Found By: --- See screenshot at http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/b/confirm_installation_button_order.png The back button does not go back, it simply cancels the dialogue. The install button being an affirmative action should be on the left to be consistent with other dialogues. [Install] [Cancel] perhaps ? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Andreas Jaeger
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Stefan Hundhammer
The back button does not go back, it simply cancels the dialogue.
This is intentional, and it is also consistent with that dialog's message text: It says you can safely go back and review all settings with that "Cancel" button. Anything else would be destructive; you'd lose all data entered so far (most important, because time-consuming, being a manual software selection and/or partitioning).
The install button being an affirmative action should be on the left to be consistent with other dialogues.
[Install] [Cancel] perhaps ?
This was also intentional throughout the years: For one thing, be consistent with the wizard window, for another, prevent users from casually clicking each leftmost button on each pop-up dialog that appears without too much thinking. That kind of users will find themselves back in the installation summary - no harm done. Does that still make sense? I don't know. Do we have to consider our existing user base who might be used to that button order? Or are they just as annoyed and would welcome a change? Sigi, Eva, Martin: Opinions? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #3 from Benjamin Weber
The install button being an affirmative action should be on the left to be consistent with other dialogues.
[Install] [Cancel] perhaps ?
This was also intentional throughout the years: For one thing, be consistent with the wizard window, for another, prevent users from casually clicking each leftmost button on each pop-up dialog that appears without too much thinking. That kind of users will find themselves back in the installation summary - no harm done.
On the other hand, as affirmative actions are on the left on dialogues throughout microsoft windows, KDE ,and yast2-qt then users who are used to this might click on the left to cancel through force of habit. They would then end up installing by mistake. There are better strategies for preventing accidental agreement with messages than putting buttons in an unexpected order. For example firefox uses a timeout on the ok button. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #7 from Martin Schmidkunz
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--- Comment #8 from Lukas Ocilka
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--- Comment #9 from Martin Schmidkunz
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--- Comment #19 from Stefan Hundhammer
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--- Comment #21 from Stefan Hundhammer
So why not display the "warning your data will be lost" within the installation proposal?
Because this would be very misleading at that point? We'd need extensive explanations what data might be lost. "Formatting /dev/hda1 (Windows)" is already there and (IIRC) in red. And you you imply not posting a final confirmation dialog at all? I don't think we should or might want to do that. There needs to be a final confirmation before we do possibly destructive changes.
Either below the heading or (what would make more sense) in the partitioning part of the proposal. Maybe also in read and "warning" typed bold.
..and blinking, and with a bright black-and-yellow danger sign with a skull... ;-) Well, seriously, we should reserve that kind of thing for critial error situations. Really performing the Linux installation during the Linux installation does _not_ qualify for that IMHO. ;-) BTW I recall similar discussions years ago: Some people wanted the "we are really going to install now" confirmation to be much more emphasized, and others ridiculed exactly that, naming it the "warning, you are going to install SuSE" dialog for that reason. I fear this discussion is increasingly moving off topic. Remember, it began with button order... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #22 from Martin Schmidkunz
And you you imply not posting a final confirmation dialog at all?
To be honest, a confirmation dialog hidden beneath all the license pop ups is quite meaning- and useless to me. Sigi, what do you think about that? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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--- Comment #23 from Martin Schmidkunz
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