https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734 Matej Horvath changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team- |lslezak@novell.com |screening@forge.provo.novell| |.com | Severity|Normal |Enhancement -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c3 Daniel Gollub changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |behlert@novell.com, seife@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Daniel Gollub 2007-08-14 02:55:52 MST --- Actually it's quite easy.... If you _would_ enable the service by default in the installation - this would only start the bluetooth services if there is any bluetooth device available. Have a look at /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth: ## Path: Hardware/Bluetooth ## Description: General settings for the Bluetooth device, if set to 'yes' bluetooth is started when hotplug reports 'added bluetooth device' ## Type: yesno ## Default: no ## ServiceRestart: bluetooth There should be no security issue if the START_SERVICES flag is enabled by default. If there is no bluetooth hardware -> no bluetooth service get started - even if START_SERVICES is set to "yes". CC'd the Mobile Devices Stefans... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c4 Stefan Seyfried changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |security-team@suse.de --- Comment #4 from Stefan Seyfried 2007-08-20 04:45:31 MST --- behlert is away for some time.

From my POV, it is fine to start bluetooth per default, since you now can easily disable services as user. And you can always unplug your dongle :-)

Since we want to get rid of the yast2 bluetooth module in the long run anyway, we should enable it. But let's get a comment from security, they will surely object :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c6 --- Comment #6 from Daniel Gollub 2007-08-23 07:34:17 MST --- /etc/sysconfig/bluetooth: ############ general ## Path: Hardware/Bluetooth ## Description: General settings for the Bluetooth device, if set to 'yes' bluetooth is started when hotplug reports 'added bluetooth device' ## Type: yesno ## Default: no ## ServiceRestart: bluetooth START_SERVICES="no" In short - if we would set START_SERVICES to "yes": No bluetooth device -> no starting bluetooth service Bluetooth device -> starting bluetooth service if NOT - (START_SERVICES="no" - what we have at the moment): No bluetooth device -> no starting bluetooth service Bluetooth device -> NO starting bluetooth service Is there still an security issue (audit required) if the service get not start if there is no bluetooth device? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c8 Ladislav Slezak changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |cthiel@novell.com Info Provider|behlert@novell.com | --- Comment #8 from Ladislav Slezak 2007-08-23 08:12:59 MST --- OK, so I ask the managers to decide whether we should switch the default in 10.3 or later... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734 Christoph Thiel changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c12 --- Comment #12 from Ladislav Slezak 2007-08-24 04:56:25 MST --- To comment #11, just to be sure: Yast will use the default value from START_SERVICES regardless there is any bluetooth adapter present or not. So START_SERVICES should be set to "yes" by default. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c14 --- Comment #14 from Daniel Gollub 2007-08-24 06:52:29 MST --- Ooops, i already did this - forgot to mentation that :) Waiting for checkin by autobuild team. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c16 Karsten Keil changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kkeil@novell.com --- Comment #16 from Karsten Keil 2007-09-07 05:32:27 MST --- I think it is OK to set START_SERVICES=yes if it really do not start/load anything until a device is detected, but it seems that is not the case. On my laptop (no builtin BT) Beta3 loads bluetooth,rfcomm and l2cap kernel modules. I do not think it should do that until a BT device is detected. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c18 Stefan Seyfried changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |kkeil@novell.com --- Comment #18 from Stefan Seyfried 2007-09-11 05:23:17 MST --- (In reply to comment #16 from Karsten Keil)

I think it is OK to set START_SERVICES=yes if it really do not start/load anything until a device is detected, but it seems that is not the case. On my laptop (no builtin BT) Beta3 loads bluetooth,rfcomm and l2cap kernel modules. I do not think it should do that until a BT device is detected.

I don't understand why this happens. Can you try to find out what causes the module loading? Is the bluetooth init script enabled ("chckconfig bluetooth")? It is not on my 10.3-STABLE installation (and it should not be). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c20 --- Comment #20 from Mario Guzman 2007-09-11 11:52:17 MST --- I meant 309575. FYI: On my MB there is no BT and never will be, yet BT is loaded and enabled. See bug 309575 for hwinfo/boot/msgs. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=299734#c22 Stefan Seyfried changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WORKSFORME --- Comment #22 from Stefan Seyfried 2007-09-19 06:04:43 MST --- Ok, in this case i think we can live with that. I will drop the yast2 bluetooth module soon after 10.3 and then this issue will go away. It is probably not loaded for autodetection, but i believe that the yast module explicitly starts the bluetooth service when it is enabled - which it is now. But it does not make sense to fix this (and maybe introduce other bugs) when we are going to drop the module anyway. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.