https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c1 --- Comment #1 from Sven Burmeister 2011-01-07 16:59:58 UTC --- linux-vdb1:/etc/rc.d/boot.d # hdparm /dev/sda /dev/sda: multcount = 8 (on) IO_support = 1 (32-bit) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 3072 (on) geometry = 19457/255/63, sectors = 312581808, start = 0 linux-vdb1:/etc/rc.d/boot.d # hdparm -B /dev/sda /dev/sda: APM_level = 1 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c2 Hans-Peter Holler changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |holler@nefkom.info --- Comment #2 from Hans-Peter Holler 2011-01-10 18:47:39 UTC --- Same here on my notebook, but only when on battery: without powersupply: holler-n2:~ # hdparm -B /dev/sda /dev/sda: APM_level = 1 with powersupply plugged in: holler-n2:~ # hdparm -B /dev/sda /dev/sda: APM_level = 254 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c4 --- Comment #4 from Hans-Peter Holler 2011-01-30 18:48:21 UTC --- (In reply to comment #3)

Are you using KDE? Maybe this is DE related and not actually the basesystem's fault?

Yes, KDE 4.6 from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Distro:/Factory/openSUSE_Fact... I'll check it in runlevel 3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c6 --- Comment #6 from Sven Burmeister 2011-01-31 09:45:28 UTC --- It seems that this is nevertheless not a KDE issue but pm-utils or upower's. I found a bug on bko and at gentoo which describe the behaviour. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334393 which has a workaround http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334393#c3 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248905 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c7 Hans-Peter Holler changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |vuntz@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | --- Comment #7 from Hans-Peter Holler 2011-01-31 20:25:01 UTC --- Touching /etc/pm/power.d/harddrive makes it worse: APM_LEVEL is set to 1 when started on battery and remains even when powersupply is plugged in. So next try: assigning to vuntz -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c9 Vincent Untz changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|vuntz@novell.com |mvyskocil@novell.com --- Comment #9 from Vincent Untz 2011-02-18 00:35:20 UTC --- I looked at that, and I have no clue what is right to do. However, what I can tell: - it's the pm-utils default behavior - this can be configured (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662383#c3) - Fedora dropped this part for now (see http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=pm-utils.git;a=commitdiff;h=85406683...) Michal, any idea what should be done here? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c11 --- Comment #11 from Sven Burmeister 2011-02-18 08:55:37 UTC --- (In reply to comment #9)

- it's the pm-utils default behavior

The _new_ default behaviour as far as I understood.

- this can be configured (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662383#c3)

Good to know, should go into the release notes since it is a change compared to 11.3.

- Fedora dropped this part for now (see http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=pm-utils.git;a=commitdiff;h=85406683...)

I opt for disabling this feature because I do not see any benefits. Neither does it save power, nor does it extend the hard disk's life. I do see disadvantages though, e.g. delays as soon as the user has to wait for the hard disk to spin-up just to name the one the user notices instantly without caring about load cycles etc. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c13 --- Comment #13 from Hans-Peter Holler 2011-02-18 15:51:39 UTC --- And it's essential to make /etc/pm/power.d/harddrive executable. See comment #7. I think it's not too late to add this empty file in openSUSE's rpm for 11.4. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c15 Andreas Jaeger changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |aj@novell.com, | |vuntz@novell.com --- Comment #15 from Andreas Jaeger 2011-02-28 19:51:31 UTC --- So, should we remove the file for now as well? Btw. what is the right devel project for pm-utils? The one in utilities is not the one that is in 11.4, it contains *less* changes. Vincent, you made those last changes, any ideas? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c17 Michal Vyskocil changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P2 - High Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED Target Milestone|--- |Factory Severity|Normal |Major --- Comment #17 from Michal Vyskocil 2011-03-01 08:46:53 UTC --- I've moved the pm-utils after a discussion on opensuse-* ML about a mess in Base:System. This project contains a dozens of not-related packages like openssh, wodim, xjobs and so. Unfortunately change of devel project needs 4(!) steps to be done * get a maintainership in new project/package * changedevelrequest * submit package to new location * delete the old one after changedevelrequest is accepted (it cannot be done earlier) And, because the last step can be done when the second request is accepted, it's very easy to lost a track, if you move more than one package. Anyway I don't know why the last three commits were accepted in Factory - I always thought all changes should go through devel project by default! I removed the /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/harddrive and sent changes to * factory: 63077 * openSUSE:11.4: 63078 BTW: the Base:System/pm-utils is gone, please use utilities/pm-utils in future, thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.